Who's the bully was Re: Snape's Reaction to Harry assuming that he is a DE spy

potioncat willsonkmom at msn.com
Tue Aug 3 20:22:57 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 108708

someone (Vivian I think) quoted:
> > page 474
> > 
> > "I merely thought," said Snape, in a voice of forced calm, "that 
if 
>  Potter was wandering around after hours again...it's an 
> unfortunate habit of his...he should be stopped. For--for his own 
> safety."<
> > 
> > "Ah, I see," said Moody softly. "Got Potter's best interests at 
> > heart, have you?"
> > 
> > vmonte: 
> > 
> > See how even the bad guys know that Snape does not have 
> Harry's best  interest in mind! <

Potioncat:
This particular conversation happens on so many levels that I find 
it more confusing than the time turner.  Keeping in mind that it 
appears consistent with what Moody would say.  That it would be 
reasonable for Moody to doubt Snape's loyalty.  And that Moody knows 
that Snape was a DE.  

On the other  hand, what we didn't know on the first read and what 
Snape doesn't know at that moment, is that this is Barty Jr. And 
Barty Jr greatly resents DEs who walked free.  I believe that Barty 
Jr knew Snape was a DE.  And by asking "Got Potter's best interests 
at heart, have you?" he's really asking, though not in a way Snape 
would understand: "Where do your loyalties lie?"  
> 
> Pippin:
> LOL! They're both playing to their invisible audience: Harry. I 
> suspect that Fake!Moody and Snape tried to use legilimency on 
> each other and were foiled, but each realized that they had been 
> foiled.
> 
>  Snape is saying something like "On your own head be it, Potter, 
> if you get in trouble wandering around the corridors. There *is* 
> someone on campus trying to kill you, but if you'd rather trust 
> your miserable neck to Moody than to me, when I happen to have 
> saved your worthless life at least once, I can't stop you."

Potioncat:
This is interesting!  I never considered that Snape really knew 
Potter was still there.  This is similar then, to the "conversation" 
in Umbridge's office.  So is it your idea Pippin, that Snape also 
knew that Moody knew? Or do you think he left, intending for Potter 
to be stuck there for a while?


Pippin: 
> As for Fake!Moody, he  is very anxious to find out what Potter saw 
> on the map, and if Harry is sent back to bed or hauled off to 
> detention, he won't get a chance to find out.
> 
Potioncat:
I just happen to be reading that section and it still amazes me how 
JKR does the conversation between Harry and C!M and still, knowing 
what we know, the conversation doesn't give anything away.  

And I still find it very creepy that the "nice guy" is the bad guy 
and the "mean guy" is the good guy.

Potioncat 





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