Just a comment about Lupin's malady

Theresa anmsmom333 at cox.net
Wed Aug 4 20:02:28 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 108846

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jo Raggett" <aggie at r...> wrote:
> > Lissa:
> > >>What if Peter put the Imperius curse on Lupin to get him to do 
> > something? >>>>> 
> 
> 
> >>HunterGreen:
> > I like that thought. He could have used a potion in conjunction 
> with the imperious curse that made Lupin lose his memory (perhaps 
> slipped to him right after a werewolf transformation, when Lupin 
was 
> already confused). >>>>>>>>>
> 
> Aggie:
> I like this thought too! My reservation on it is that if this *had* 
> happened, I doubt that the 2 minutes in the Shreiking Shack would 
> have convinced Lupin to forgive Sirius.  Sirius *knew* that Peter 
was 
> the traitor as he had swapped secret-keeper places with him.  Lupin 
> (and why do we call him Lupin and the others by their first name?) 
> wouldn't have known this *and* would have had the added insult of 
> Sirius et al believing *him* to be the traitor.  I suppose after 12 
> years of contemplation, this may have been worked out in Lupin's 
head 
> already, but I do find it difficult to believe that he would have 
> forgiven them that quickly. 
> 
> That said, it is my favouite theory on why Lupin was distrusted.  I 
> am *SO* against ESE!Lupin, yes siree Bob!  ;o)

I am with you. I just cannot buy the ESE!Lupin theory. I might be 
biased, as he is one of my favorite characters. I also don't buy the 
Lupin/Sirius ship theory either. I don't have canon proof but then 
again I don't see either of those theories when I read the books. But 
I digress. Personally, my opinion has always been that Peter was far 
more clever than folks gave him credit for. I think this is alluded 
to in the shack scene but I don't have my books with me at work so I 
cannot verify. It may just be my assumption. However, especially 
after rereading OotP recently (I got a British paperback in the mail 
from a friend who wanted the American hardback) I thought while 
reading the pensieve scene that it seems that Peter was always 
discounted by the other three. He was acting so serious after the OWL 
when the other three were joking about the werewolf question. He was 
giving he real answer. He strikes me as one who lacks confidence but 
is not really a stupid person. I think Dumbledore (once again sorry I 
don't have the books) stated that they knew the spy was someone close 
to the Order (and most likely in the Order) so naturally Peter being 
viewed the way he was in the pensieve scene no one would think it was 
him. So they would deduce - who could it be, well James and Sirius 
were like brothers so it was not either of them, it couldn't be Lily 
because she was James' wife, and I am sure they did more deductions. 
Remus most likely was being affect by all the anti-werewolf 
legislation and many werewolves were serving Voldermort so he 
probably was a bit moody. James and Sirius also (though I love the 
three good marauders) weren't exactly always sympathetic about Remus' 
condition (see pensieve scene) so they probably did not get why he 
would be moody about the anti-werewolf stuff. So I believe Remus just 
often distanced himself and though James and Sirius most likely 
didn't truly state they thought Remus was the spy, I think they were 
just not confident that he would not be tempted. And like I said 
Peter was just this weakling who wasn't too bright at least in their 
minds so they just picked him as the most likely NOT the spy. Anyway, 
that is my beliefs and it may not have too solid of canon proof but 
that is what I glean from reading the books. 

Theresa





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