Just a comment about Lupin's malady
Theresa
anmsmom333 at cox.net
Wed Aug 4 20:02:28 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 108846
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jo Raggett" <aggie at r...> wrote:
> > Lissa:
> > >>What if Peter put the Imperius curse on Lupin to get him to do
> > something? >>>>>
>
>
> >>HunterGreen:
> > I like that thought. He could have used a potion in conjunction
> with the imperious curse that made Lupin lose his memory (perhaps
> slipped to him right after a werewolf transformation, when Lupin
was
> already confused). >>>>>>>>>
>
> Aggie:
> I like this thought too! My reservation on it is that if this *had*
> happened, I doubt that the 2 minutes in the Shreiking Shack would
> have convinced Lupin to forgive Sirius. Sirius *knew* that Peter
was
> the traitor as he had swapped secret-keeper places with him. Lupin
> (and why do we call him Lupin and the others by their first name?)
> wouldn't have known this *and* would have had the added insult of
> Sirius et al believing *him* to be the traitor. I suppose after 12
> years of contemplation, this may have been worked out in Lupin's
head
> already, but I do find it difficult to believe that he would have
> forgiven them that quickly.
>
> That said, it is my favouite theory on why Lupin was distrusted. I
> am *SO* against ESE!Lupin, yes siree Bob! ;o)
I am with you. I just cannot buy the ESE!Lupin theory. I might be
biased, as he is one of my favorite characters. I also don't buy the
Lupin/Sirius ship theory either. I don't have canon proof but then
again I don't see either of those theories when I read the books. But
I digress. Personally, my opinion has always been that Peter was far
more clever than folks gave him credit for. I think this is alluded
to in the shack scene but I don't have my books with me at work so I
cannot verify. It may just be my assumption. However, especially
after rereading OotP recently (I got a British paperback in the mail
from a friend who wanted the American hardback) I thought while
reading the pensieve scene that it seems that Peter was always
discounted by the other three. He was acting so serious after the OWL
when the other three were joking about the werewolf question. He was
giving he real answer. He strikes me as one who lacks confidence but
is not really a stupid person. I think Dumbledore (once again sorry I
don't have the books) stated that they knew the spy was someone close
to the Order (and most likely in the Order) so naturally Peter being
viewed the way he was in the pensieve scene no one would think it was
him. So they would deduce - who could it be, well James and Sirius
were like brothers so it was not either of them, it couldn't be Lily
because she was James' wife, and I am sure they did more deductions.
Remus most likely was being affect by all the anti-werewolf
legislation and many werewolves were serving Voldermort so he
probably was a bit moody. James and Sirius also (though I love the
three good marauders) weren't exactly always sympathetic about Remus'
condition (see pensieve scene) so they probably did not get why he
would be moody about the anti-werewolf stuff. So I believe Remus just
often distanced himself and though James and Sirius most likely
didn't truly state they thought Remus was the spy, I think they were
just not confident that he would not be tempted. And like I said
Peter was just this weakling who wasn't too bright at least in their
minds so they just picked him as the most likely NOT the spy. Anyway,
that is my beliefs and it may not have too solid of canon proof but
that is what I glean from reading the books.
Theresa
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