Molly & others' vulnerability (was: Wizard/Muggle "Radar")

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No: HPFGUIDX 108847

Siriusly Snapey Susan said:
> >I'm one of the ones whose pet peeve is people assuming MOLLY will
> >likely betray the Order because of her love for her children...but
> >who seem to believe Arthur is immune from this!  I feel that *any*
> >person who deeply loves another is susceptible to this kind of
> >blackmail.]
 
Magda: 
> I think Molly's weak point would be that she'd let her anxiety over
> her children's (and Harry's) safety blind her to reality.  In other
> words, she'd be duck soup if Voldemort set up a particularly crafty
> masquerade (not the word I want to use but I'm blanking right now) 
> to fool her.  Had she seen a vision of Percy or Bill or Charley 
> being tortured in the MoM she'd have broken the sound barrier 
> getting there to rescue them.
> 
> Molly's strident efforts to keep the kids ignorant of what was going
> on (Harry in POA, all the kids in OOTP) shows that she has a very
> limited understanding of what the Order is all about and what 
> demands it might make on its members.  


SSSusan:
Hi, Magda.  HunterGreen, in 108818, addressed the fact that it wasn't 
just Molly who made efforts to keep the kids ignorant--Lupin, DD, 
McGonagall & Fudge also did this.  So I'm not sure that this alone 
shows Molly has a very limited understanding of what the Order is 
about.

I *don't* necessarily doubt that Molly might fall apart.  My point 
originally, though, was to ask those people who think she would to 
explain why they *weren't* worried that others in the Order [Arthur, 
in particular] would also.  I was fishing for some canon which would 
show why Molly alone would be susceptible to this kind of DE/Voldy 
manipulation, whereas Arthur [or anyone else who loves someone 
deeply] would not be.  

We did have the opportunity to see the form which Molly's Boggart 
took in OotP, so we know from that what her deepest fear is.  We 
didn't have the opportunity to see Arthur's or Lupin's or Sirius' or 
DD's... so we don't really know whether they'd have been something in 
a similar vein.  

Janet explained her view that Molly's type of love makes her 
susceptible and also why she thinks Arthur isn't susceptible.  I'd 
like to hear more views.  When we don't hear the specific "why NOTs" 
about a character, only the "whys" about another, it's hard not to 
wonder if it's gender stereotyping going on.  I know that JKR has 
portrayed Molly in a particular way, and that's no poster 
here's "fault."  But is she the ONLY type of person who's susceptible 
to this kind of blackmail?  It doesn't seem *to me* to be so.  If 
Harry were kidnapped, would DD bargain w/ the DEs?  If Fred & George 
were kidnapped, would Arthur "give something away" in order to get 
them back?

I don't know if I'm making any sense; I suspect not!  I would just 
love to hear more about the possibility & the "whys" or "why nots" of 
other characters being susceptible to DE/Voldy blackmail.

Siriusly Snapey Susan