Snape, Quirellmort question...

[mschelleau]

No: HPFGUIDX 108926

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Bex" <hubbarrk at r...> wrote:
> NearlyheadlessRyan:
> > a thought/question occured to me: Snape suspects Quirell of trying 
> > to get at the Sorcerer's Stone and keeps confronting him late at 
> > night in the halls and forest about it. As we come to find out, 
> > you-know-who has taken up residence under the turban and is 
> > controlling Quirell. 
> >
> > Now, skip ahead to OOP, if Snape really is spying for The Order again, 
> > wouldn't Voldemort remember Snape's part in trying to stop him from 
> > getting ahold of the Stone? Wouldn't he know that Snape's loyalty 
> > lies with Dumbledore? and therefore want Snape disposed of? Surely, 
> > Quirell being destroyed didn't erase V's memory as well?
> > I'd love any thoughts that anyone cares to share.
> 
> 
> Now Head-on-Shoulders Yblitzka:
> That's been bugging me too. It may be that Snape explained himself 
> with "I was acting," and being an accomplished Occlumens, would have 
> been able to lie to Voldemort, but I don't know how LV would buy 
> that. That's one reason why I don't think Snape is the "deserting DE" 
> mentioned at the end of GoF (the "one who... has left me forever"). 
> LV says matter-of-factly that the deserter will be killed. If Snape 
> is the deserting DE, how on earth can he be a spy working with the 
> DEs? Wouldn't one of them, or LV, kill him on sight? Surely LV has 
> made it known to them who he thinks the traitor is!
> 
> If Voldemort does remember Snape's behavior in PS/SS, and Snape 
> hasn't properly explained it, then it would make sense that he is the 
> deserter, since LV would be almost certain he had defected to DD.

There is another possibility, which is that LV does know Snape has 
betrayed him and is therefore the "one who ... has left me forever" 
but it is only LV who knows this, as he doesn't identify him by name 
to the other DEs, possibly because he wants that mystery to remain 
and keep others in fear by having them wonder "does he think it's me 
who is the traitor?" I think this is possible as it is likely it is 
only the main core of DE (Malfroy, Crabb, etc) who are known to other 
DEs but there are other unknown DEs who remain silent and masked, so 
it may be that no one DE knows who all the other DE are. 

So, you could assume that no DE, apart from LV, actually knows Snape 
has betrayed him. Snape therefore is re-establishing contact with no 
one knowing he is on the outer and treading a very fine line.

However, I don't think it has been established that Snape was one of 
the unidentified DE at the end of GoF and so unless Harry via DD has 
shared that info Snape may not in fact know he's been rumbled 
(although he would suspect given the whole trial/Quirell carry on) so 
it may be more dangerous than Snape actually knows (assuming that he 
is truly with DD)

Just a few more thoughts on the matter

Mschelle in Au