Marauder's Map, the Marauders, and Voldemort

[karen at dacafe.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 109003

RMM:
> < Lupin was of the firm belief that Sirius was onto some dark
> < arts "from Voldemort" in order to gain entrance to Hogwarts.
> < 
> < Now, if there was no Black-Voldemort connection, and one can
> < learn dark arts on ones own, why would Lupin think such a thing?
> < 
> < My point was never that the Marauders were Evil people.  My point
> < has always been that the Marauders were playing with the dark arts
> < under the tutelege of Voldemort.
> < 
> < Some pulled back after it got nasty, and some did not.  Some saw
> < it for what it was, at least one did not.

Alla:
> < Would you care to give canonical evidence of ANY of the Marauders 
> < except Peter, of course playing with Dark Arts with Voldemort being 
> < their TUTOR?



>From kmc:

In OOTP, when Harry questions Sirius and Lupin about Snape's memory, it is
stated that James hated the dark arts.  Since James was one of the
creators of the Marauder's Map, I do not believe that the map was created
using the Dark Arts.

I think we are going to find out that Peter did a lot of ground work
setting up Lupin as a traitor.  Once James and Sirius believed Lupin was
the cause of the leaks, it was probably very easy to move the blame on
Sirius.   Sirius and Remus each blamed the other and did not compare notes
until after the events in the shrieking shack in POA.

Sometimes I wish JKR would show us more than just what Harry sees and
hears.  I would have really liked to been a fly on the wall to
conversations between Sirius and Remus as they compared notes.

Dumbledore's talk at the end of GOF and the sorting hat's song at the
start of OOTP are all about trusting each other and standing together to
defeat Voldemort.
The Marauders allowed one of their members to seed the group with
mistrust probably by using Dark Arts but that occurred after they left
Hogwarts, not when they created the map.

Did Filch get the map from the creators or was the map passed down to
fifth or sixth year Gryffindor?