Molly & others' vulnerability (DD specifically)

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Aug 5 18:18:33 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109023

dcgmck:
>>> 4 - Dumbledore only seems to worry about Harry's feelings and 
welfare when Harry is actually in a sickbed or in Dumbledore's 
presence.  The rest of the time he seems content to trust that 
Harry will be protected and/or be able to fend for himself.  Even 
when Harry disappears from the maze in GoF, Dumbledore doesn't 
get proactive, preferring to wait and see how things will sort 
themselves out until he actually deduces that Moody is not the 
Mad Eye he knows and trusts.<<<
 
SSSusan:
>> Good point.  I myself have argued that DD has been willing to 
allow Harry a good deal of latitude to test and/or prove himself.  I 
would argue, though, with the GoF example.  Since Harry & Cedric 
carried the portkey with them to the graveyard, how could DD have 
been proactive in any way?  He couldn't go after them, as he didn't 
know where they were.  

You're right that DD's been willing to stand back & allow Harry--
and Ron & Hermione--to be in dangerous situations.  What do you think 
that he would do if the DEs actually captured one of the Trio and, 
rather than killing them outright, attempted to use them to bargain 
for something?<<
 
dcgmck:
> Actually, I think Dumbledore has already shown what he would and 
> will do if and when Harry et al are in serious danger: witness the 
> MoM duel between DD and LV/TR.  I'd call that seriously proactive.
 
> Without more than inference to support me, I'd like to suggest that 
> Dumbledore has no trouble knowing at any given moment where anyone 
> who interests him is.  His only real challenge seems to be the ever 
> present time/distance factor, which I assume is why he was too late 
> at Godric's Hollow, if he even tried to get there.  Of course, he 
> also didn't know that GH was the place to be because of the charm 
> whose name is currently eluding me... grrr...


SSSusan:
Fidelius. :-)

So your belief is that DD would GO AFTER Harry (or Ron or Hermione), 
as he did in the MoM and duke it out.  Yes.  It does seem 
more "DD'ish" to take action rather than to be forced into 
negotiations of any kind.

On your other point, it does seem that DD frequently knows where 
people who interest him are/when he needs to return from wherever he 
is, etc.  Does it hold true for knowing where VOLDY is, too, do you 
think?  It seems to me that it must not.  In particular I'm thinking 
of Quirrell!Mort.  DD may have suspected Voldy was near to returning 
and may have suspected--with Snape's help--that Q. was in on it, but 
I can't imagine that he knew he was under Q.'s turban....

Siriusly Snapey Susan






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