Riddle and Grindelwald in 1945

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No: HPFGUIDX 109063

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <hpfanmatt at g...> wrote:
> 
> Matt:
> > Then again, given that JKR has not always been absolutely precise
> > around dates and class years, it may be futile to look for perfect
> > consistency on this point.
> 
> Geoff:
> I take your point. Examples of weak spots like the day of the week 
of 
> Harry's 11th birthday spring to mind.....
> 
> It's just that in this case, I have previously speculated on which 
> school year Riddle could be in being 16 and had overlooked the 
Diary 
> reply that he was in the Fifth Year; that possible timeline brought 
> his exit from the school into close juxtaposition with the defeat 
of 
> Grindelwald and there has been some contemplation of a Riddle-
> Grindelwald link in past posts.

Snow:

We don't know when Voldemort's birthday is though and that Does 
matter. Harry is in year five in OOP and is 15; he doesn't turn 16 
until July after his fifth school year ends but before the 6th 
begins. This would mean that Harry will be 17 when he graduates 
Hogwarts but 18 in that same year. 

Voldemort said the chamber was opened in his fifth year. All that is 
implied is that Riddle preserved himself in a diary 50 years ago when 
he was 16. The diary was actually after the events of the chamber 
opening in 1942. The Very Secret Diary COS  "I mean that this diary 
holds memories of terrible things. Things that were covered up. 
Things that happened at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry." 

Geoff quotes that:
"The Chamber was re-opened in the autumn of 1992, Harry first hearing
the Basilisk in September and the first petrification being on
Hallowe'en night."

So then Riddle's 5th school year would be `42/'43. The diary was 
found and said to be 50 years ago also but in February of '43:
The Very Secret Diary COS "Hermione left the hospital wing, de-
whiskered, tail-less and furfree, at the beginning of February. On 
her first evening back in Gryffindor Tower, Harry showed her T. M. 
Riddle's diary
"
This is where they notice that it had been written 50 years previous. 
Also:
COS "She rubbed hard on January first. (January first is written in 
italics)
 
Riddle preserved himself in a diary when he was 16 and the year was 
1943 but there is no proof that it was in his 5th year. Riddle shows 
Harry the month of June when he framed Hagrid but that doesn't mean 
that is the month that he preserved himself in the diary. Riddle was 
16 in 1943 but most likely in his 6th year. When did Riddle write in 
the diary (if he actually did) as apposed to when did he preserve 
himself depends solely on when his birthday is.  Riddle's 6th school 
year would be `43/'44 and his 7th year would be `44/'45, Riddle would 
be 17 when he graduates Hogwarts but turn 18 that same year.  
My personal preference for Riddle's birthday is December because of 
Trelawney's prediction that she saw Harry to be born in the winter 
months. I really like the idea that Trelawney sees past Harry to the 
Tom Riddle part within and that is what she bases her weird 
predictions on.