[HPforGrownups] Re: Marauder's Map, the Marauders, and Voldemort

[karen at dacafe.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 109078

> < Demetra:
> < I'm going to make myself unpopular, but here's my take on this.
> < I think that Sirius and James were the tight-knit friends of the
> < group and the major mischief-makers.  McGonnagall compares them to
> < Fred and George, and Sirius admits to Harry that he and James were
> < often in detention.  What is it about studious, nose in his book
> < Lupin that would make James & Sirius take notice?  I think that the
> < fact that Lupin is a werewolf and that they saw the potential for
> < fun cavorting with a werewolf was what made them want to befriend
> < Lupin -not that they befriended him first, then accepted him being
> < a werewolf.
>

>From Karen:

I think they became friends originally because like Dean, Seamus, Neville,
Ron and Harry they were all sorted into the same house at age 11.

It is obvious from Snape's memory that school came easy for James and
Sirius.  I think Lupin like Hermione enjoys books, reading and studying.

I don't have the books in front of me but I seem to remember reading that
Sirius and James were curious where their friend went once a month.  And
so set out to discover Lupin's secret.

Since James and Sirius had to help Peter transform at first, I think they
may have initially left Peter behind on the first few adventures.

This leads me to some more thoughts on the motives of the Rat:
In Snape's memory, it is shown that Peter idolizes James.  15 year old
James still enjoys this hero worship.  But we do not know how 17 year old,
courting Lily, reacts to Peter's following his every move?

Did he follow them on their dates?  Get stuck spending the evening with
less tolerant Sirius?  Somehow I don't think Sirius was dateless.  I can
see where Sirius and James would possibly double date.  Lupin would be
content to read (possibly not happy but understanding that his friends
need time with their girls.)

I think Peter was jealous of Lily and Sirius.  I also don't think he was
very bright.  (He spent time with a werewolf but could not remember the
ways to identify a werewolf during his OWLs).

So Peter meets with LV and makes a deal, he'll spy on the Order if LV can
provide the means to split the Marauder's and thereby giving Peter sole
friendship with his idol.

Lupin was first to be separated.  This may have happened before the first
prophesy.

Sometime around Harry's birth or soon after LV learns of the prophesy.  He
now needs to destroy Harry.  SS/PS indicates that the Dursley's are
Harry's only relatives.  The Potter family have been killed - In my
theory, by LV, either while James was at school (remember the 1st war was
going on while James and Lily were at school) or during the few years
James and Lily were escaping LV.

Peter is jealous of anything that takes James' attention away from him. 
He must have hated Harry from birth.  (I know the my husband was
captivated by our first child.  James had a son who except for Lily's eyes
was his double.)

James, Lily and Harry have the Fidelius Charm performed and Peter is their
secret keeper.
I don't really think LV had to do much persauding to get Peter to tell him
where Harry was.  In my opinion, Peter saw this as a chance to get rid of
the main to rivals for James' attention and place the blame on Sirius. 
Therefore, leaving Peter as James only friend.

LV is a master at deception.  He knows Peter's motive and promises that
James will not be hurt.  Sirius and Lupin, by mistrusting each other,
played right into Voldemort's hand.

I will save my opinion on Lily's role in this senerio for a later
discussion since I have rambled on long enough.


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