Case for Marauders (was Re: Marauders, Voldemort and the Map)

[romulusmmcdougal]

No: HPFGUIDX 109188

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Inge" <Elvishooked at h...> wrote:
> 
> Inge:
> Love the idea of Voldemort teaching DADA at Hogwarts (but wouldn't 
> Dumbledore know who he was? Did it matter? Would Dumbledore have 
> known then what went on in the DADA-classes?)

Not necessarily.  He would have known had the students told him.
But not all of the students in Voldemort's class would have been 
selected.  When you join the Freemasons for example, you do not 
choose to join, they choose you to join.
You have to prove your worth.
Now, Voldemort was preaching Pure-Bloodism, and many families loved 
that!  Hence, children from those families would make good candidates.
The Pure-Blood families did not like the Muggle-loving Dumbledore.
The Marauders were daredevils, showed their "cleverness" with 
transfiguration by their fifth year, and were known to keep things 
from Dumbledore.  They were also curious, saw Tom Riddle's prowess 
with magic, and became interested.  Another set of candidates.

Remember, under Dumbledore's tenure as Headmaster, the School is not 
of a single mindset.  There are different houses with different ideas.
Dumbledore certainly would not agree to Voldemort's politics, but 
that hasn't stopped anyone from teaching at Hogwarts in the past.

> 
> As for the years 1976-79... assuming James, Sirius etc. were born 
in 
> 1960 (or close to that) they'd all be in their 6th - 7th year (as 
you 
> said). No problem with that.
> But Lucius. He's older. How much older? 2-4 years? If so - he would 
> not have been at Hogwarts by 1976 and wouldn't have been under the 
> influence of Voldemort's teaching DADA ..... 
> Other than *that* - cool theory!

Thanks, and thanks for those enlightening facts!
This is why I am revising my range of years then.  If Lucius was born 
in 1954 as the lexicon states it, (I would love to see the 
calculation behind that date!) then that would mean that Malfoy was 
entering his 6th year at Hogwarts in 1970.  
Let us say then that Voldemort's first year at Hogwarts would be 
1970.  Immediately then, Malfoy and other Slytherins would be 
immediate candidates for the DEs.

I say 1970 based on what Dumbledore said in 1981: ""You can't blame 
them," said Dumbledore gently. "We've had precious little to 
celebrate for eleven years."
Looking back on the trouble with Voldemort, it appears that 
everything started going bad as soon as Voldemort showed up, although 
folks didn't understand why until the rot had openly appeared.
Remember from what Sirius said, many agreed with Voldemort until 
he "showed his true colours".
For many years then, Tom was acting completely underground at 
Hogwarts.  Who knows, he may have been using the Chamber of Secrets 
for his own personal classroom for teaching the Dark Arts.
The Marauders certainly would have been curious as to what was going 
on with Tom since they had the map and would see Tom's movements 
around the place.  

Anyway, thanks for the data.  As more details come in, the more we 
will know about Voldemort's activities during the 1970s.

RMM