Halloween 81

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 109192

Lorel:
"Actually, I meant the other members of the Order. They all know the 
address and can access the house even though they are not S-K. I was 
then drawing a parallel between this and Godric's Hollow: the Order 
members can get to 12 GP but not divulge its secrets; why couldn't 
Peter have shared the address with Sirius? He, too, would be able to 
access the house in GH."

DuffyPoo:
 It's not just the Secret-Keeper who can get in. Anyone who the S-K personally tells "The Order of the Phoenix is at number 12 Grimmauld Place" can get in.  I would think the other members of the Order have all been told the whereabouts by DD, so they have access to come and go freely.  Peter could have shared the address with Sirius, maybe even did.  We just don't know from the books so far.



DuffyPoo:
"Even though Nymphadora (what a name!) Tonks knows where 12 GP is, she 
cannot bring Andromeda or Ted to GP because she is not the Secret-
Keeper.  As above, at least this is my understanding of how it 
works." 

Lorel: 
"Exactly. So why would this be any different for Sirius? He can get 
there, but not bring people with whom Peter had not shared the 
secret. Of course, it just occurred to me that within this setup, 
Sirius would be the only other person who could know, because 
otherwise everyone else would have known that Peter was the S-K. 
Hmmm, that's a big weakness in my theory."

DuffyPoo:
Sirius couldn't get into Potter residence after Peter was made Secret-Keeper unless Peter told him.  At least, that is my understanding.  Sirius, Remus, DD knew exactly where the Potters were living in GH.  As soon as the Fidelius Charm was performed, it 'slipped' from their memories, for lack of a better term.  Peter must have told Sirius so he could visit James, Lily and baby Harry. Sirius said, "I'd arranged to check on Peter, make sure he was still safe, but when I arrived at his hiding place, he'd gone.  Yet there was no sign of a struggle.  It didn't feel right.  I was scared. I set out for your parents' house straight away.  And when I saw their house, destroyed, and their bodies -- I realise what Peter must have done." 

But then how would DD know to send Hagrid? In my theory, as soon as the house was destroyed the Fidelius Charm evaporates, or collapses, then all those who once knew where the house was, would know again.  That's how DD knew so quickly that something had happened and sent Hagrid.  The address of the house 'popped' back into his mind, so he knew the charm was broken.  I'm only basing this on DD since he didn't know Peter was the S-K and therefore was obviously not told the address, yet he knew right away, quickly enough to send Hagrid "before the Muggles started swarmin' around", that something had happened to the Potters.  Clear as mud? ;-)


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