Snape's choice of memories for the pensieve
macfotuk at yahoo.com
macfotuk at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 7 02:04:59 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109230
I haven't been able to track all of this thread and besides this my
comments below will very likely belong in other threads on Snape,and
also not be original (impossibility of an original thought,
especially on anything as analysed as the HP books?), but here goes
with some thoughts arising from re-reading the 'Snapes's Worst
memory' chapeter of OotP:
1. Yes I agree Snape may have 'planted' the memory Harry saw - But,
just because Harry thinks it should be Snape's worst memory because
of the humiliation aspect, I think Snape would have other reasons
for hiding this memory from HP (3 below).
2. There's little doubt in my mind (because it's said so several
times) that it's Dumbledore's pensieve. I wonder if the bell jar in
the time room at the MoM (containing the eternal hummingbird to egg
and back again) isn't also full of the same stuff since it shimmers
in the same way. No idea what significance this yet has (may ever
have).
3. This point (point 3) is probably where this post belongs
elsewhere, but here goes - re-read the entire memory in the
following mindset: Snape is hopelessly (literally) in love with Lily
for some reason, i.e. he feels that at some point there was reason
to be hopeful; that or she was simply so attractive even badboy
(pathetic and much wronged and so nasty boy I see him as more like)
Snape could not help being infatuated. His apparent focus on reading
the DADA exam paper afterwards is all a ruse to hide what he is
really up to, which isn't to follow the marauders (why go near such
awful bullies?) so much as to be near one of their number's real
target i.e James is following Lily Evans cos he too is infatuated
and that's what Snape is doing too, if more covertly (from a bush).
Others have said that Snape can't love Lily because he calls her
mudblood, but this is exactly what a 'man' might do when a 'girl' is
seen publicly to be his only defence from bullies - he has (by some
absurd honour view) to belittle her to make himself look less
pathetic/unmanly even if it hurts both him AND her to do so. He
knows that because (some unseen back history here) Lily has given
him reason to be hopeful, she will understand/forgive his insulting
her in public.
4. Snape's loving Lily (yes I know not an original idea of mine)
explains a lot that has happened and might yet happen in the plot as
it moves to the finale of book 7. Snape loves Lily and hates James
as an enemy and rival. He hates Harry for at least four reasons and
cannot prevent his most spiteful urges emerging whenever in his
presence. Reasons to hate HP = 1. He is the son of, and closely
similar in appearance and (Snapes's view) arrogance to, Snape's arch-
enemy James Potter. 2. He (HP) is the reason for Lily's (Snape's
eternal beloved) death, and 3. HP is the son Snape and Lily never
had because James Potter won. 4. HP is a constant reminder to Snape
of Lily's death, James' victory over him in winning her heart and of
any discomfort/gult/anguish Snape may feel about his part (see next
point) in her death.
5. As a one-time DE Snape would very likely want to see out his
grudge with/resentment at James Potter. Like Tom Riddle, Snape has
childhood emotional scars plus interests in the very darkest magic
and, at least at one time, the prepardeness to use these methods to
achieve revenge, desires and so on. He was a natural recruit. Unlike
LV however, Snape can (does, or once did) feel love and has a strong
sense of honour and justice, as much as the best of the other OotP
members. Don't forget DD's words that it is out choices that matter,
not just potential. Even so, being a DE and sidekick of LV afforded
Snape a chance that if JP were removed, but Lily spared (as even LV
hinted was possible at her death) then Snape could reclaim his love
from a formerly hopeless situation. Thus, he could be a player in
the death of JP (indeed he might gloat at it) yet his horror at LV's
zeal to also kill Lily was what finally turned him against HP. It
was perhaps to save Lily that Snape turned traitor to LV and when LV
did not spare Lily Snape was placed in an irretrievably (perhaps)
tragic position - on the wrong side (DD's and not LV's) despite his
inclination otherwise. This leaves me wonderng how, if at all, Snape
can (or will) redeem himself to either side. He could go either way
and it would not be a surprise. To return to LV (if he ever left)
would be to go with his natural inclinations given that Lily will
never again be. His sense of honour however, despite his nastiness
otherwise, might keep him loyal to the OotP not least because he
can 'never go back' (to LV).
I've a million other thoughts on Snape (who hasn't?), but will get
these posted to see if there's stimulating commentary.
"macfotuk"
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