Snape and the Dark Mark (Was: OOTP Chapter Discussions, Chapter 24)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 109315

Sigune wrote:
> 
> It always seemed to me that the Dark Mark on Snape's arm had 
> something to do with it all. It seems to me that Death Eaters are 
> even more in terror of Voldemort's name than other wizards and 
> witches. It struck me that in CoS (and I sincerely apologise if this 
> is movie contamination; I ought to reread the book), Malfoy was
taken aback by Harry's speaking Voldy's name out loud, and so are, if
I am not mistaken, the DE's at the DoM - as if it physically hurts
them to  hear it. I suspect that the Dark Mark is a rather powerful
link with 
> Voldemort, comparable in a way to Harry's scar; and old beliefs have 
> it that when you speak, for example, the Devil's name, he might just 
> come to you. So maybe, for DE's more than for others, speaking 
> Voldemort's name kind of activates their bond, drawing his attention 
> to them.
> Or at the very least, the DE's are in mortal fear of their own 
> leader.<snip>

> And I'm with you Pippin: we don't want Snape saying Voldy's name to 
> be the last thing he does. Let him keep wincing and live nastily
ever after.

Carol responds:
I know that I mentioned this in another post, but I'm so hopelessly
and permanently behind that I won't even try to locate it or see if
anyone responded to it. Instead I'll just repeat my main point,
without any support whatever: I think it's only Snape, not the DEs in
general, who feels pain via the Dark Mark when he hears Voldemort's
name, and I think it's because the Dark Mark senses his disloyalty.

I think the loyal DEs' reasons for not using the name are different
from Snape's--real or pretended fear of Voldemort, and in Bella's
case, awe of and fanatic loyalty to her "master." IIRC, Crouch!Moody
(pretending to be the real Moody) says Voldemort's name out loud with
something like pleasure. Whether he could do so in his undisguised
form I don't know. Under the veritaserum he uses "the Dark Lord" and
"my master," but I don't think it's fear or the Dark Mark that causes
him to do so. It seems to be fanatical devotion like Bellatrix's.

Can anybody find canon support for the *loyal* DEs feeling pain like
Snape's (other than when they're being summoned to the graveyard or
when LV is actually touching the Dark Mark)? If not, it seems to me
that Snape's pain, both when Voldemort's name is mentioned and when
Crouch!Moody is talking about "DEs who walked free" is strong evidence
(not proof--I know the difference) that Snape is indeed disloyal to
Voldemort and not ESE!.

Yes, yes, yes to Snape living nastily (or at least sarcastically) ever
after.

Carol, who apologizes to anyone who addressed this idea in response to
her earlier post