Theory on Snape - MASSIVE
saraquel_omphale
omphale at onetel.com
Sun Aug 8 14:31:39 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109350
<snip from Cathys original post>
>
> However, after reading your post, I do notice how much Malfoy and
Draco seem
> to rear their heads, and I have an idea that Snape doesn't spy on
or for LV
> directly - he spies on and for Malfoy. In the same turn, I think
feeds info
> BACK to Malfoy and Malfoy chooses to keep some of that info close
rather
> than share it with anyone, including LV.
Saraquel goes very much along with Charme, I recently posted (109115)
something similar and will post edited parts of it again here as it
wasn't taken up:
Saraquel has always been intrigued by exactly what Snape does for
TOotP:
I don't think that Snape has direct contact with
Voldemort, too much is known about him (see recent threads about
Quirrelmort for a start) for Voldemort to be tricked. The passage
re Harry and Snape is carefully worded, implying that Snape finds
out what LV HAS SAID (which could well just be reported speech) to
his DEs, not what LV is doing.
How and even why Snape is conected to LM I thought about a bit in
that last post, but one possible connection between them could be
Draco's eagle owl. Now there's a passage in GOF (p500 Uk pb) about
Harry riding on the back of an eagle owl in his dream. This passage
has always raised a question mark in my mind because it is unclear to
me whether the eagle owl has been sent with a message by Crouch jnr
and lands in the chair to give the message to LV, or how I read it
the first time, LV had possessed the owl to find out what was
happening at Hogwarts and on landing in the chair 'turns back into'
LV. This second interpretation would explain why Harry was flying on
the back of the owl in the first place.
The eagle owl frequently goes to and fro between Draco and his
parents, this has been established right from the start. Now if Snape
was to possess the owl (or heaven forbid be yet another animagus) he
would have access to the Malfoy's home and eye contact with Malfoy
for legilimancy purposes.
Now for something new:
Snipped from Cathy's original text
>if
>you belive Snape is *the next man*: "Voldemort moved on, and
>stopped, staring at
>the space -- large enough for two people -- which separated Malfoy
>*and the next
>man*.")
I very much liked the idea that Snape was at the graveyard, and am
very convinced by her arguments, including the explanation for Snape
jumping at Malfoys name (I know I've just contradicted myself,
because above I said that I didn't think Snape spied directly on LV,
in general I don't think he does, but I was really convinced by
Cathy's argument... But I want to have my cake and eat it :-))
However, that then leaves us with the problem of who is 'the one who
has left and will be killed'?
snipped from Cathy's original post
<Did Snape
<know that it was Quirrell jinxing HP's broom? He may not have known
<it at the
<moment but obviously figured it out as Quirrell said that was why
<Snape wanted
<to referee the next Quidditch match.
I have a big problem with this scene in PS (p140 UK pb) which implies
that whatever Quirrel thought he was doing to Harry's broom, it
didn't stop when Hermione knocked him over:
'... she didn't even stop to say sorry as she knocked Professor
Quirrell headfirst into the row in front. Reaching Snape, she
crouched down, pulled out her wand and whispered a few, well chosen
words. Bright blue flames shot from her wand on to the hem of
Snape's robes.
It took perhaps 30 seconds for Snape to realise that he was on fire.
A sudden yelp told her she had done her job. Scooping the fire off
him into a little jar in her pocket she scrambled back along the row -
Snape would never know what had happened.
It was enough. Up in the air, Harry was suddenly able to clamber
back on to his broom.'
(Bottom of p141) Hermione says, "I know a jinx when I see one,
Hagrid, I've read all about them! You've got to keep eye contact, and
Snape wasn't blinking at all, I saw him!"
To me, this means that Harry couldn't clamber back onto the broom for
a good 30 seconds after Hermione broke Quirrell's eye contact with
Harry's broom. So what was going on here, were both Quirrel and
Snape hexing Harry's broom and why was it important for Hermione to
scoop the fire up again?
The jury's still out on, is Snape ESE? Can't tell you where, but I
recently read that JKR has warned us about feeling too sorry for
Snape! I also agree somewhat with Nora
Huge snips
>I promised myself I was going to stay outta Snapethreads. We always
>end up arguing unknown points of fact, and there are enough of those
>that no one can decently argue interpretation, at the moment
Snape is a pivotal character in understanding so much that I think
JKR has deliberately kept us in the dark with him and we really do
need more information before we can even think of pieceing things
together.
Saraquel
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