Veil Room at MoM in OotP

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No: HPFGUIDX 109395

to my post 109302) 

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> vmonte responds:
> 
> Interesting post. I think that Harry mentioning Sirius's name was 
> probably a forshadowing of his death via veil. 

Yes I do too, Just not sure if JKR is simply being 
Shakespearian/ironic in having Harry 'pre-figure' Siruis' death, or 
else alluding to his strong divination abilites that others have 
credited him with, or else as I stated that he might have 'given' 
the veil a victim's name, i.e. Sirius.

> think that he hears Ron talking to him from the veil? Something 
> like: 'Ron is that you?' and then Ron: 'I'm here mate.' I think 
that 
> Ron actually walks around from behind the veil.  This really 
creeped 
> me out by the way. 
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I simply read this at the time (and still do) that Harry is tying to 
rationalise the voices he can hear and so picks on the closest real 
world person, Ron. I'm not sure his foot is on the dais at this time 
either and I believe JKR has said somewhere that Hermione and Ron 
will survive at least until the finale, so I don't believe we'll see 
the veil get Ron. 

I'm not convinced the veil needs to figure again in the remainign 
plot (books 6 and 7), but then again it may have a critical role 
(perhaps it'll be the only way for Harry to defeat Voldemort. There 
was certainly some compelling reason in the plot as to why Sirius 
had to die. JKR didn't want to do it, but 'had to' (and some 
personal sadness at that in doing so!). I'd always believed the 
reason was that it doesn't suit the developing story for Harry to be 
allowed to have anyone he can consider really close enough to be 
properly in lieu of family. Of course, it may instead have been to 
introduce us to the veil because it reappears even more importantly 
later or else the place/state Sirius has gone to does.