Snape's avoidance of Voldemort' s name (Was:OOTP
eloiseherisson at aol.com
eloiseherisson at aol.com
Mon Aug 9 11:43:34 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109429
Carol:
> > The name [Voldemort] clearly causes pain to Snape: I'm not sure that
> it does so for loyal DEs. In fact, my impression is that both
> Voldemort's name and the presence of a loyal DE (Barty Jr. in
> disguise) caused Snape's Dark Mark to burn because he's *dis*loyal to
> Voldemort and the Mark senses that disloyalty.
<snip> "Snape suddenly did something very strange. He seized his left forearm
> convulsively with his right hand, as though something had hurt him."
> (GoF Am. ed. 472).
>
> Clearly it's the Dark Mark--and Crouch!Moody's reference to it--that's
> causing the pain. <snip>
Eloise:
Although I have theorised in the past (long, long ago) that the Dark Mark
may be sensitive to the presence of other DEs and therefor act as a kind of
recognition device (given that DEs sometimes operate masked) I am not at all
convinced that it is felt at all except in response to a summons from Voldemort.
In the above passage Snape clutches his forearm *as if* something had hurt
him. Certainly, this *may* be an indication that the DM did actually hurt at
that point, but if so, then why not earlier in the encounter, why only when
Crouch!Moody refers to it? I always interpreted it as more of a psychological
reaction. Having said that, I also think it's somewhat out of character for
Snape to react that way, not in the sense that he never wears his heart on his
sleeve, but in that he has spent years hiding his identity as a DE and years
hiding his loyalty to Dumbledore *from* the DEs, so he should be practised
enough not to react like that (physical pain or not) when Crouch!Moody called
his trump like that.
I think it is included as a measure of the level of discomfiture that Snape
felt at that moment. He knew that Voldemort was regaining power. He must have
known that shortly he was going to have to prove his worth to the Order
again, that with Voldemort a player again, his own position, his own life were
going to be jeopardised again. He knew that Moody (as he thought) had never
trusted him and wanted evidence against him and so JKR shows him giving the
instinctive reaction of covering up that evidence in a convulsive movement. Whilst
it's rather a crude reaction for Snape, of course it's also necessary that
the reaction is clear enough to be noted by Harry and thus related to the
reader.
I think that Crouch!Moody is deliberately testing the waters here with
Snape. I think he's genuinely unsure of where his loyalties lie. When Snape
clutches his Dark Mark, he simply laughs and tells him to get back to bed, enjoying
the uncomfortable situation he's put him into. If that clutching of the arm
indicated to him that Snape was disloyal to Voldemort, then I think that we
might see some slightly more sinister or knowing reaction.
Carol:
>The second incident that I recall (there may be others) occurs in OoP
> during the first occlumency lesson:
<snip>
> "'*Do not say the Dark Lord's name!*' spat Snape. (Italics in original.)
<snip>
> "'Dumbledore is an extremely powerful wizard,' Snape muttered. "While
> *he* may feel secure enough to use the name. . . the rest of us. . .'
> He rubbed his left forearm, apparently unconsciously, on the spot
> where Harry knew the Dark Mark was burned into his skin." (OoP Am. ed.
> 532).
>
> This time the pain seems less intense, <snip> but nevertheless the
> pain seems directly connected with Voldemort's name. That in itself
> seems sufficient reason for Snape to call Voldemort the Dark Lord,
Eloise:
Alternatively, we could simply accept Snape's explanation. Again, I'm not
convinced that Snape *felt* anything at that moment but I'd be very worried
about his carelessness if I didn't think it was merely a device for the reader's
benefit.
Carol:
>but I also think that he wants to emphasize for Harry in particular how
> very dangerous--and Dark--Voldemort is. Not a foe to be faced lightly
> by a boy who thinks he's a Dark Wizard's equal. He is, IMO, trying to
> help Harry understand that in this scene.
Eloise:
I'm possibly a little more cynical about this. Harry may have the
foolhardiness of youth, but Snape must know by this time both that Harry actually is no
fool and that potentially he *is* Voldmort's equal. I don't think he likes
that one little bit. Of all the people marked out potentially to be the
undoing of Voldemort, James Potter's son is the last one he would like it to be.
I've said it before and I've said it again: I think Snape is jealous of Harry
and this exchange is another example of his trying to put the upstart in his
place (similar to the remark about finding out what Voldemort is saying to his
followers being *his* job). How can he possibly think that Harry doesn't
realise that Voldemort is very dangerous and very Dark? No. I think this little
exchange is all about Snape and Harry.
Carol:
> But to return to my main point: Hearing the name, or a reference to
> the mark placed by Voldemort himself on Snape's arm as a symbol of
> loyalty and a means of enforcing it, causes Snape pain. The question I
> have that I hope someone will answer is, do we have any indication
> that the loyal Death Eaters feel a similar pain?
Eloise:
No, I don't think we do. But I'm not convinced that Snape feels physical
pain, only that he demonstrates an awareness of its presence.
> Kemper replies:
>
> I seem to recall Crouch!Moody using the name Voldemort when he's
> questioning Harry in his office before DD, MM and Snape stun him.
Eloise:
Yes, he does. But only once and that before he's revealed his true identity
to Harry. The rest of the time he too refers to Voldemort as the Dark Lord.
Whilst I'm sure that Dumbledore is right in promoting the use of Voldemort's
real name (and I find the exaggerated reactions of many of the characters,
such as Ron and particularly Hermione very irritating) I think that Snape's
continued use of the phrase "the Dark Lord" indicates an acknowledgement of the
power which he at first hand knows him to wield, rather than an avoidance of
any physical pain caused by his disloyalty. It's also probably a good thing
that Snape *does* habitually use the term. Given that one isn't always
completely sure of loyalties he wouldn't want to go carelessly suggesting to any
DE or sympathiser in the know that he was talking to (or was overheard by) that
he didn't acknowledge Voldemort's lordship.
~Eloise
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