Molly-- Thoughts on a witch + Snape's objections

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No: HPFGUIDX 109597

Siriusly Snapey Susan wrote:
> > I concur, also, that it will be tough for Molly to let go and go 
> > along with filling Harry in/allowing him to be considered an 
> > adult  member of the Order.  But Snape?  Do you really think 
> > he'll object?  I'd love to hear more on that.

Josh: 
> Oh, Snape would object to being on any kind of equal status with 
> Harry. Canonical evidence would be his gloating nature when he 
> makes sure that Harry knows that keeping up with LV's activities is 
> _his_ job, and not Harry's.


SSSusan:
Except I think that we can assume that Snape--along with all the 
other Order members--now understand that Harry MUST be considered of 
equal status, if not higher, because of his position to Voldy, i.e., 
kill or be killed (if DD is right).  At the end of OotP, Hermione & 
Ron don't yet know about the content of the prophecy, but given that 
DD let Harry listen to it and discussed it with him, isn't it safe to 
assume that he will or has informed the Order members?

Snape will never like having Harry, a mere stroppy, rule-breaking, 
arrogant teen (in Snape's eyes) being treated as a full-fledged 
adult, but I don't think he'll openly balk at it either.  

I think there was a *lot* going on in that scene between Snape & 
Harry that you've cited, and I don't think we necessarily know 
exactly what Snape was thinking just then.  "Gloating" isn't the word 
I'd have used...though you could be right.  My initial interpretation 
(still open to revision) was that Snape spoke in a manner so as to 
impress upon Harry, emphatically, that his statement was correct.  
This doesn't mean that Snape thinks Harry doesn't have an important 
role to play in the war, but just that he wants Harry to recognize 
that Snape has an important role to play, too, and that their roles 
are *different*.  So, in my take, it's not gloating so much as 
emphasizing something he wants to sink in to Harry's (sometimes hard) 
head.

  
Josh:
> So you've seen Arthur react to Molly's ire by not a) backing down 
> immediate (that was very wrong boys!) or 2) speaking very quietly?


SSSusan:
Indeed, I have.  Just as I've seen him provide information to Harry 
(in PoA) against Molly's wishes and as I've seen him "override" her 
(or watched her give in, depending on one's preference for 
interpreting the scene) by disagreeing with her over Fred, George & 
Harry's being allowed to ask questions of Sirius & the Order members.

Arthur's a grown-up; he "allows" whatever he wants to allow to 
happen.  I believe he allows Molly to vent, because it's in her 
nature to need to do so now & again [somewhat like yours truly].  He 
then has been seen to calmly, quietly expresses his views.  Speaking 
quietly, taking time in replying--these can be smart moves when in a 
disagreement with someone more volatile.  And Molly may be upset in 
the end, but she HAS backed down, which tells me that she listens to 
Arthur, in spite of the level of noise she puts forth. :-)

Siriusly Snapey Susan