Is Lupin James?
mhbobbin
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Wed Aug 11 06:35:21 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109680
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mumweasley7"
<shalimar07 at a...> wrote:
> In Book 3 Prisoner of Azkaban: Shrieking Shack
> Lupin was lowering his wand, gazing fixedly at Black. The
professor
> walked to Black's side, seized his hand, pulled him to his feet so
> Crookshanks fell to the floor, and embraced Black like a brother.
> Notice 'gazing fixedly' - really looking him over. And embraced
Black
> like a brother.
>
> In Book 5 OOtP, Sirius is explaining his family to Harry when he
says
> he went to live with James' family after his family rejected him
and
> they treated him like their own son.
>
> Is the reason Lupin doesn't touch Harry simply because he's so
> overcome with emotion that he can't afford to give away his secret
> and therefore chooses not embrace his son, and also why he shivers
to
> hear Harry talk about his mother's screams?
>
> MumWeasley7
mhbobbin:
This is the theory I was alluding to when trying to work through
James' state of mind when he made the decision to make Sirius the
Secret Keeper in my post on "James Choice" a couple days ago or
yesterday(it all melds together). There is the theory out there
that since in the WW, the soul is a tangible body part that James
and Lupin could have switched souls. The Galedriel Waters book puts
forth this theory as well as some other posters. This theory places
James' soul in Lupin's body and visa versa through some sort of
switching spell. Note that we've heard about switchings spells but
haven't seen any in action. This would mean that James/Lupin entity
is James' soul stuck in Lupin's body, complete with werewolf
transformations and that Remus/Potter entity died at Godric Hollow
in James' body.
I like and dislike this theory for these reasons:
Like:
1. It explains Lupin's oddly emotional reactions to Harry and
particularly Harry's discussion of hearing his parents' voices.
(shiver) and now that we know that LV may be able to see into
Harry's mind, explains why Lupin doesn't want to touch Harry while
he'll touch anyone else. He only touches Harry in the Veil scene to
hold him back--an emergency. To underscore the touching thing, the
last line that JKR gives to Lupin in OOtp is "Keep in Touch".
2. It satisfies what I was trying to work through in the
post "James' choice"---What was James' state of mind? He rejected
DD's concern about the spy in his inner circle and made one of his
three friends the Secret Keeper. James is presented sometimes as
arrogant but it is hard to imagine him rejecting DD's concern even
as he rejected DD's offer to be the Secret Keeper. How on earth
could he have chosen between Sirius and Remus as his Betrayer, while
of course, rejecting the true rat.
We learn in the Shrieking Shack scene that at the time this decision
was made, Sirius suspected Lupin of being the Spy. Lupin suspected
Sirius. James' actions by making Sirius the Secret Keeper suggests
that James put his trust in Sirius, and did not trust Lupin. James
and Sirius did not tell Lupin about the last minute switch to
Pettigrew. Well, as other posters indicate, it IS hard to imagine
Lupin so distrusted. But that is what was presented to us IMO.
If this theory follows, then the Remus/Potter entity made the switch
to Sirius at the last minute. What this confusing theory suggests is
that James, perhaps, rather than choose between Remus and Sirius
tried to hedge his bets. Why make the switch? To leave Remus' soul
in James Potter body would mean that Remus was risking his life and
would likely be killed by LV if found, therefore, it was a way for
Remus to prove his trustworhiness. Also a Remus/Potter entity could
not bring LV to Godric Hollow and is therefore neutralized as a
threat. (Lily was in on the switch, of course) Remus/Potter was left
to guard the home at Godric's Hollow. James/Lupin went somewhere?
Why? Was there something only he needed to do that only he could do?
Perhaps it was James' intent to make Sirius the Secret Keeper but at
the last minute, on Sirius's suggestion Remus/Potter makes Pettigrew
the Secret Keeper. By making Pettigrew the Secret Keeper, a
distrustful Remus/Potter also ensured that a distrusted Sirius could
not betray Potter. Unfortunately, they were ratted out anyway but
thanks to Lily, Harry survives.
Why I dislike this theory:
1) If James' soul survives in Lupin's body, why does he disappear
for an entire year in GOF? No note to Harry. NO visits. Nada. Why
would a James/Lupin entity allow Sirius to step up to paternal role
and form such a close bond with his own son? Of the two friends, it
is Lupin that gives Harry better fatherly advice, but he has allowed
the bond with Sirius to be greater. I don't get it. (But then Lupin
is such a tragic emotional character.)And it would have been logical
for Lupin to have continued his relationship with Harry after PoA...
2) If James did all this, Lupin's holding a very big secret--(I do
believe that Lupin is holding a very big secret)-it was one thing
not to reveal himself by PoA, but by OotP, why hasn't he told Sirius
or DD. Why hasn't DD read his mind? There is some suggestion in
the books that Lupin is a Legiwhatsy but there is no suggestion that
he is a Occlumens.
The theory for the switching was fed by the confusion that JKR
created in some editions of GoF when the shadows come out of the
wands. In this theory, James' body would come out because Remus
died in James' body just as James must now undergo werewolf
transformations in Lupin's body. Therefore, Lily must never be put
in a position of saying to Harry "Here comes your father." This
theory was also fed by the Thing-That-Must-Not-Be-Named because they
only used Lily's voice and not any voice that Harry could interpret
as being his father's. Recall how Lupin reacts in the Book when
Harry tells Lupin that he heard his father. Oddly emotional.
I'm not sold on this Switching Theory but I still think something
odd is going on with Lupin and something LIKE this is possibly the
cause.
mhbobbin
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