chess game in SS/PS-- Ron as not Dumbledore theory...

vmonte vmonte at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 11 18:02:13 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109728

K wrote:

I do believe it's possible Dumbledore is using time-travel. And if
he is then wouldn't it stand to reason that others are also doing
the same?

I'm still standing by my theory that Harry started some of this time-
turning mess.

Anyway, I love the chess discussion and will be paying closer
attention to any game references in the books!


vmonte responds:

Yes, I think you may be right about other wizards using TT. You know 
I'm not so sure that Dumbledore represents the king piece in the 
first war. It seems to me that Lily and James seemed to have made a 
decision/choice that was apart from what DD or any other friend 
wanted. Maybe they allowed PP to become the secret keeper because 
they felt that the only way Harry would survive was if they died. I 
think that Harry will not be able to change the past because his 
parents will make sure he cannot. I think that is why all the details 
of GH will not be revealed to Harry. I think that is also why DD is 
also not aware of what exactly happened there (a man who often knows 
too much). 

What if James and Lily made a decision to die based on their own TT 
adventure.  Did Lily and James work in the DoM?  Did Lily or James TT 
to the future and realized that they needed to die in order to save 
Harry?

Lily obviously represented the Queen in the first war. But what about 
James? Is it possible that he represented the King, and not DD? It 
sure seems like J&L kept DD in the dark. Is it possible that Lupin 
was the Bishop? Lupin seems to be keeping quiet about something. 
Could he have a part in J&L's plan? And what about Sirius? Sirius 
would have died trying to save J,L,&H at GH. Perhaps James allowed PP 
as secret keeper to keep Sirius alive for Harry. After all who would 
be left for Harry? And Sirius is Harry's godfather after all... 

I'm also going to try to come up with other reasons to explain the 
unusual link between Ron and Dumbledore. 

SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT RON=DD! 

I think it's only fair to attempt to find other reasons to explain 
why  Ron seems to be a strategist (with perhaps seer potential) just 
like DD. Is it possible that Ron will be handed the "baton" of Order 
protector when DD is killed? Are the Weasley family and Dumbledore 
related by blood to GG? Does DD notice latent ability in Ron? If DD 
is indeed keeping a close eye on Harry he must also notice those 
around him. We know that he is aware that Ron is good at strategy, he 
awards him for this. Do you think that Ron will also do well in his 
divination exams? Is DD a Seer? Not a bad talent to have as a 
strategist, by the way.  I also noticed that in the scenes where Ron 
does give Harry good advice, another scene with Dumbledore will 
follow to explain and/or reiterate Ron's thoughts. 

Here is an example:

page 211 SS 

"Want to play chess, Harry?" said Ron.
"No."
page 212
"Why don't we go down and visit Hagrid?"
"No...you go..."
"I know what you're thinking about, Harry, that mirror. Don't go back 
tonight." 
"Why not?"
"I dunno, I've got a bad feeling about it..." 
snip
"You sound like Hermione."
"I'm serious, Harry, don't go."

snip

"So--back again, Harry?"

snip

page 213
"And it showed your friend Ron himself as head boy."
"How did you know--?
"I don't need a cloak to become invisible..."

snip

"Ronald Weasley, who has always been overshadowed by his brothers, 
sees himself standing alone, the best of all of them."

I wonder if DD will give Ron exactly what he wants. Was DD once 
invisible like Ron? Did someone give him the chance to prove himself? 
Did he make Ron a prefect for a specific reason?      

vivian





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