Prophecy Interpretations (Re: BIGGEST SPOILER)

[kellymcj2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 109826

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pcaehill2" <pcaehill2 at s...> 
wrote:
> > > Stella says:
> [snip] 
> > > I absolutely love the idea of Voldemort being done
> > > in by the "gift" he has given Wormtail! 
> [snip]
> > > That said, the prophesy can still be very much about
> > > Harry, the "vanquisher" of the Dark Lord....nowhere 
> > > in the definition of "vanquish" does it mention the
> > > word death. Defeat, yes.  Kill?  Not necessarily! 
> 
> kmcj continued:
> {snip}
> > And here's another possible reason to anticipate Wormtail's 
> > potential significance-the only other prophecy JKR has let 
> > us in on is one concerning Peter. 

> Pam agrees:
> I do think that Peter will have some gollum-like role to play 
> (although not in the same manner, since the only things Peter 
> is "addicted" to seem to be his own fears and lust for power, not 
an 
> artifact, and I think his part in destroying power will be more 
> willful, a chosen betryal). 
snip by kmcj
> Pam continues
> A basic flaw in the "peter-is-the-one-in-the-prophecy" argument 
> seems to me to be the "he will mark him as his equal" part:  
> the "dark mark" does *not* mark any DE as LV's equal.  Whereas, it 
> is extremely evident (to me at least) that Harry's scar *is* a mark 
> that is related to a transfer of power from LV to Harry.
> snip again

now kmcj
Well Pam, I completely agree about Peter not being the one referred 
to in the prophecy.  At this point, I still think it's Harry.  What I 
was trying to convey is that I think Peter will have a significant 
part to play in the battle between H and V.  

I think the phrase 'by the hand of the other' in the prophecy is 
quite striking and is one of JKR's famous double meaning tricks.  I 
think we'll see Peter being told to attack Harry in some manner but 
he'll be compromised in doing so because of his life debt.  The hand 
his master gave him will be forced to compete with his other hand, 
which could be said to be Harry's owing to the life debt.  

I don't mean his hands will be slapping at each other (hilarious 
image though) but that the 'choice' Harry made in letting Peter live 
will somehow cause a difficulty in Peter completing his master's 
orders.  In the type of scenario I'm anticipating, the basic gist of 
the prophecy will be accomplished and will be between Harry and V 
but 'by the hand of the other' will actually be very literal and mean 
Pter's silver hand and human hand will come into play.

Whew.  Hope I explained well.  Actually, there's a bit more to what I 
think about that whole life debt, but that's for another post.  Can't 
expect you to read a thesis here now can I?

kmcj, well aware of what an utter HP geek she's become