The Dumbledore Connection

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Thu Aug 12 16:27:18 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109837

What is the connection between Dumbledore, Fawkes and Harry, there is 
defiantly a connection but what is it?

(1)Harry's very first glimpse of the Phoenix, Fawkes, is in COS The 
Polyjuice Potion:

"It's a shame you had to see him on a Burning Day," said Dumbledore, 
seating himself behind his desk. "He's really very handsome most of 
the time, wonderful red and gold plumage. Facinating creatures, 
phoenixes. They can carry immensely heavy loads, their tears have 
healing powers, and they make highly faithful pets."
(Interesting to note that the word faithful in the last sentence is 
in italics.)


(2)Harry had help from the phoenix in COS directly related to 
Dumbledore:

"First of all, Harry, I want to thank you," said Dumbledore, eyes 
twinkling again. "You must have shown me real loyalty down in the 
Chamber. Nothing but that could have called Fawkes to you."...COS 
Dobby's Reward

(3)Harry heard the phoenix song but had no physical help in GOF:

And then an unearthly and beautiful sound filled the air
it was 
coming from every thread of the light-spun web vibrating around Harry 
and Voldemort. It was a sound Harry recognized, though he had heard 
it only once before in his life: phoenix song.

It was the sound of hope to Harry
the most beautiful and welcome 
thing he had ever heard in his life
He felt as though the song were 
inside him instead of just around him
It was the sound he connected 
with Dumbledore, and it was almost as though a friend were speaking 
in his ear
GOF Priori Incantatem


(4)Harry heard Dumbledore at his hearing in OOP and felt the same way 
he did when he heard the phoenix song:

A powerful emotion had risen in Harry's chest at the sight of 
Dumbledore, a fortified, hopeful feeling rather like that which 
Phoenix song gave him...OOP The Hearing


The statements above as to Harry hearing and feeling the presence of 
the Phoenix appear to evolve in each book they appear in:

COS- Dumbledore tells Harry that Phoenixes are very faithful

COS- Harry must have shown great loyalty (or faithfulness) to 
Dumbledore to bring Fawkes to him
The first time Harry actually sees and hears the Phoenix
Dumbledore 
is the one who makes the connection, for him, that only great loyalty 
to him could have summoned the Phoenix

GOF- Harry heard the sound of the Phoenix that he had heard in the 
Chamber
the sound he connected with Dumbledore
The second time Harry hears and feels the Phoenix which he himself 
connects with Dumbledore

OOP- This time the sight of Dumbledore induces the feeling that the 
Phoenix song gives him
It is this last time that Harry feels the Phoenix emotion, which is a 
180-degree turn about, that is so revealing. It is no longer the 
Phoenix which gives Harry comfort but Dumbledore's presence. 

The connection starts with Harry's loyalty to Dumbledore, which calls 
the Phoenix and ends with the connection of Harry feeling the Phoenix 
at the sight of Dumbledore. 

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                         Some Questions

The Order of the Phoenix is a Secret Order, why does the name of the 
group appear to be in tribute to the Phoenix, like a collective unity 
belonging to the (faithful)Phoenix?


Very, very important question:

Are and were all the members of the Order of the Phoenix once in 
Gryffindor house (loyalty to Dumbledore)? This one could be 
interesting given Snape is part of the Order. 


So what is the connection between Dumbledore, Fawkes and Harry?


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