Harry's Use of Cruciatus curse
Bex
hubbarrk at rose-hulman.edu
Thu Aug 12 22:16:45 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 109886
Danie wondered:
> I didn't see anything about this in the FAQ, so I'm not sure if
it's been discussed before. I found it very disturbing that Harry
attempted to use the cruciatus curse on Bellatrix. If it's an
unforgiveable curse, shouldn't he be sent to Azkaban for using it?
Or, is it ok to use against Death Eaters or defending oneself against
those who do use unforgiveable curses? I don't think "righteous
anger" would be an excuse or anyone could claim it. Perhaps, because
Harry tried to use the curse but essentially failed because it only
hit Bellatrix but didn't cause her pain, he might not actually have
been seen to have used it.
>
> Hhmm. Interesting, though,that Dumbledore doesn't say anything
about it at the end of the book and Harry doesn't unload his
conscience about it--or will it be something Voldemort will use
against him in the future?
Yb responds:
Well, remember, back dureing and immediately following the first war,
Aurors were allowed to use the UCs on Dark wizards/DEs if necessary.
I would imagine excessive use would warrant an investigation, but the
occasional "Crucio" or AK was allowed. I think this is a hint of
things to come. We'll probably see the MoM take a new stance on the
UCs, since LV is back and badder than ever. In the heat of battle, a
wizard (good guy) would probably be forgiven for an AK if it was a
life-or-death situation. "Crucio" and "Imperio" are less likely to be
forgiven, since they aren't really self-defense mechanisms so much as
torture weapons and means of control.
Harry may be in trouble, though. I am sure everyone will back him up
if it comes down to needing witnesses, but did anyone that would
really care (like a MoM official) see him use the curse?
Of course if it comes to trial he's in hot water. He used the
Cruciatus curse out of anger, not self-defense, even though he was in
considerable danger. The only reason it didn't "work" was he didn't
have the magical power behind it, nor the will to *really* want it to
happen. Harry wouldn't want to hurt someone just for the sake of
inflicting pain. I think he will have a bit more credibility with the
MoM now than at the beginning of OotP, but he is still an underage
wizard who cast a UC. I doubt he will land in Azkaban, but he may be
in for some trouble.
Re: his conscience and LV
I don't think Harry will lose much sleep about making Trixie feel a
few pin pricks. She deserved it IMHO. If there was ever a need for a
llightning bolt, I think it needs to be aimed in her direction. And
as for LV "lording" it over Harry? Highly doubtful. LV doesn't care
about using the UCs. He uses them more than "Accio" for crying out
loud, he won't care. The only thing he'll do to Harry regarding
Hartry casting a UC is taunt him into doing another. ("C'mon, do it
again! Whatsamatta? Ya scared? C'mon, do it again!")
My thoughts, keep the change.
~Yb
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