The Dumbledore Connection

snow15145 snow15145 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 01:34:02 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109908

Brenda snipped:

Apologies for bringing up the obvious point... but there is the
Fawkes' tail in Harry's wand core...

The thing is, same thing goes for Voldemort too, he shares the same
core as well. So if you extend it far enough, you could say there is
a connection between: Dumbledore, Harry, Voldemort, Salazar, and of
course the Fawkes itself.

Snow:

Brenda, your suggestion that Harry's connection to Fawkes is by way 
of the feather that is in Harry's wand core. You have also graciously 
included the fact that Voldemort has the same connection. Thank you 
for including Voldemort in that connection, very important character 
(I forgot) whose Fawkes connection has not been exactly spelled out 
as extensively as Harry's. But there are definite passages that link 
Voldemort to this connection as well. A comment made by Pentzouli 
fits this scenario very appropriately. Pentzouli snipped:
>Harry's and Voldemort's wands have Fawkes's feathers in
them, and since the phoenix's song gives courage to the pure and
fear to the evil<

So we know that, in the golden web dome, Harry was given courage and 
heard pleasant reassuring sounds, while Voldemort was hearing things 
that created fear and yet the inducing factor that created these 
emotions came from the same source; Fawkes. We can concede that there 
is a connection between Fawkes, Harry and Voldemort through their 
wand cores. 

The connection doesn't stop there though. Harry sees Dumbledore at 
his hearing and feels the presence of the phoenix, which is 
exhilarating to Harry. The connection is also there for Voldemort 
when he sees Dumbledore, the only one he ever feared (the essence of 
the Phoenix). Voldemort, therefore also connects with Dumbledore's 
Fawkes-side but unlike Harry has the opposite reaction because of his 
evil intentions, again, the passage that the phoenix's' song gives 
courage to the pure and fear to the evil
 fits nicely. But wait, we 
aren't talking about Fawkes inducing these feelings anymore but 
Dumbledore who produces the same effect on each of them as Fawkes. 
Why? 


RMM stated:
Well, I speculate, since Dumbledore used to teach Transfiguration,
that he is an animagus.
I also believe that his animagus form is a phoenix.
Fawkes the phoenix is with Dumbledore.<<<<


Even if Dumbledore is an animagus he could not be Fawkes, who is the 
connection between Harry, Dumbledore and ultimately Voldemort, 
because they appear together too many times.  


> mhbobbin writes:

And lets not forget the "second death" at the MoM in OotP. During
the duel between LV and DD, Fawkes takes one of curses for DD and
dies. While it's not much of a sacrifice, he was there the instant
DD needed him. Later, he rises from the ashes...<<<<


Now this one could possibly lead somewhere to the connection between 
Fawkes and Dumbledore. Could Dumbledore have physically shared 
himself with Fawkes? For each time Fawkes has a burning day and is 
reborn through the ashes then Dumbledore would be partially reborn 
with him. Fawkes appears to be a bit more than just Dumbledore's 
right hand. Dumbledore shares in Phoenix's physical properties also: 

The phoenix can bear heavy loads
GOF Veritaserum pg 672 Dumbledore 
bent down, and with extraordinary strength for a man so old and thin, 
raised Harry from the ground and set him on his feat. 

The phoenix tears have healing powers
OOP The Lost Prophecy pg 844 
Harry looked up at him and saw a tear trickling down Dumbledore's 
face into his long silver beard. Is this self healing from the ordeal 
with Harry?

The phoenix is highly faithful
 As far as Dumbledore's faithfulness, 
it should be self-explanatory

Dumbledore is the epitome of a Phoenix!  Not just any Phoenix but the 
one who has the connection with both Harry and Voldemort; Fawkes.  

If Dumbledore had managed to share part of himself with the Phoenix 
Fawkes, this would be better than any sorcerer's stone.

What were those twelve uses for dragon blood that Dumbledore 
discovered? 

Thanks to all who took time to read and answer my questions!

Snow






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