[HPforGrownups] Re: The Dumbledore Connection

caesian caesian at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 19:08:00 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 109989

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jo Raggett" <aggie at r...> wrote:
>  > > vmonte responds:
>  > >
>  > > I might be remembering this incorrectly but wasn't there a wasp or
>  > > bee outside of a Hogwarts class window when Harry was taking one 
> of
>  > > his exams?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Aggie:
>  > Forgive me if i'm wrong but wasn't this 'bug' matter cleared up in
>  > canon?  Was it not Rita Skeeter in beetle form?  Or are you 
> referring
>  > to another insect?
>
>  There's a wasp buzzing against one of the upper windows in the
>  History of Magic Owl exam. Harry finds it distracting.
>
>  Kneasy

also...

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "boyd_smythe"
>  <boyd.t.smythe at f...> wrote:
>  > Further, the stronger wizards seem to have more powerful animagus
>  > forms. Else why would Peter, who reportedly struggled for a bit, be
>  > only able to become a rat? Sure, it helps that he can touch the
>  base
>  > of the Whomping Willow, but certainly many more interesting forms
>  > could have done that.
>  >
>  > So if stronger wizards become stronger animagi, wouldn't it stand
>  to
>  > reason that if Albus were an animagus, then it would be a bit more
>  > spectacular? A dragon, phoenix or giant squid?
>
>  But animagi forms are characteritic of the person, not their magical
>  strength... unless you want to get into magical forms, like a
>  phoenix, but that last is pure hypothetical.
>
>  Now, we can safely assume that JKR chose Siruis and Remus' names due
>  to their animalistic alter egos, but is that the same for DD?
>  Possibily, but "dumbledore" is much less commonly known pre-books, so
>  perhaps not.
>
>  Think of DD's personality and mannerisms, and go from there.
>
>  Josh


> Caesian:
Also, an insect was buzzing lazily in the corridor beneath Trelawney's 
classroom right before Harry's divination exam in PoA - the episode 
where she makes the 2nd Prophecy: Professor Trelawney's Prediction, 
page 237 UKHB

"Harry was now the only person left to be tested.  He settled himself 
on the floor with his back against the wall, listening to a fly buzzing 
in the sunny window, his mind on the grounds with Hagrid."

It is stated that the insect is a fly (by sound), but Harry did not 
actually look at it.  This detail has always struck me oddly - as there 
are so few random descriptions in the book.  (Whenever Harry pauses at 
a window to watch the twillight, he sees and owl from Lord Voldemort 
for heavens sake!  *don't take that literally, please ;-)

I have also always wondered why Dumbledore did not need a more complete 
explanation of Trelawney's 2nd prediction from Harry.  Did he get it 
from Trelawney?  Legilimens?  No portraits are mentioned in the 
classroom.  I suppose it is possible that he was there.

I also do not have a strong feeling about Dumbledore being an animagus, 
but JKR's explanation of his name - that she imagines him wandering 
around humming - seems so charming and unlikely.  His wizard card 
states that he enjoys chamber music, and he does lead the school in a 
song - with a notable quotation at its conclusion - but I have never 
heard him humming, have you?  Also, it seems rather humorous to me to 
think of the most powerful wizard in the WW transforming into a bee to 
go putter around - very Dumbledore.  Gets the job done without an overt 
display of power.

Caesian



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