Prophecy Interpretations (re: vanquishing LV) & Newbie here

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No: HPFGUIDX 110027

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman" 
<susiequsie23 at s...> wrote:
> Luckdragon64 guesses:
> >>>What would be worse than death for Voldemort? Why, being a 
> common muggle of course. <<<
>  
> SSSusan:
> >>> [snip] And while I love the idea of Harry somehow getting off 
> the hook for having to kill Voldy [you know, vanquish vs. kill], 
> deep down I do want Voldy to die.  I'm not at all keen on Voldy 
> living, even "reduced to" a Muggle, nor am I especially keen on the 
> idea of a Redeemed!Tom somewhere inside Voldy who can live while 
> essence-of-Voldy (or Sally) dies.  <<<
> 
> dcgmck:
> > How would you feel about a devolved LV reduced past his near-
> > immortal evilness, back beyond the arrogant adolescent still 
> > smarting from familial rejection, back to a baby with a fresh 
> > start and a clean slate?  We've seen a DE's head reduced to 
> > infancy: why not an entire Dark Lord?  If evil doers and social 
> > malcontents simply lack the proper opportunities and upbringing, 
> > wouldn't a fresh start with so much potential be just the ticket?  
> > Why waste so much talent?  >-?
> 
> SSSusan:
> Hmmmm.  Because he might be somewhat predisposed to make the same 
> choices again??  (Ooooh, have I gotten myself into hot water with 
> this one?)  In all seriousness, what kinds of safeguards could be 
> put into place to ensure that *this* Tom Riddle would take a 
> different path?  Would anyone watch over him?  Would he go back into 
> a Muggle orphanage?  Would Snapey take him in? :-)  I don't know--
> would it be worth the risk...or would it be a risk at all?  ARE some 
> people predisposed to "going bad" or is it all nurture, and no 
> nature?


Marcela here:

Hello, I am new here and have been lurking in other sites for a 
while now, only posting in The Great Debate, so far. I read the five 
books last Summer, and I am afraid to say that I must have 
read/listened to audio versions dozens of times, is it just me or do 
you also re-read them only to find 'new' clues or interpretations 
every time you do? LOL

About myself: late 30s, married with two kids, have been an expat 
for the past 15 years in pretty much all continents except 
Antartica... currently residing in Texas, USA.  Italian and Spanish 
are my mother tongues, studied English since I was seven, and 
learned French and Arabic in my expat years, so forgive my spelling 
and/or grammatical mistakes, please.

Now to business: I agree/disagree with some of the above posts, I do 
not want Harry to actually kill Voldemort, by the end of OoTP he 
feels repulsion at the idea that he could be a murderer.  On the 
other hand, I do want Voldemort to die or at least pay for his evil 
actions.  I do not agree with 'dcgmck', I believe that every evil 
action Voldemort did has to be accounted for, what you are proposing 
there is sort of like Descartes' Tabula Rassa, a clean start, and 
worse,  in the name of 'let's not waste such a talented wizard'.... 
How about giving Harry a 'clean start' with his parents alive for a 
change?  BTW, Wizards could very well do that, what is 
the 'Obliviate' charm for anyways? Why bother with time-turners and 
risk SSSusan's scenario, when a simple spell such as Obliviate could 
do the trick?

But I think that you are forgetting about the Prophecy's part:

 ...'and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can 
live while the other survives...'.

I just can't think of any other alternative other than one of 
them 'kicking the bucket', like Hermione says. Which really saddens 
me, because Harry is no winner in either situation, though by now 
Harry has seen and suffered so many horrors and pains that one more 
might not 'scar' him so much.

(Maybe that was discussed before, sorry if this sounds repetitive, 
and if it was, could some of you please give me some 
pointers/reference numbers?)

Thank you, 
Marcela