3rd 'Missing' DE (Re: Astra's Hubby Has a Theory)

Brenda M. Agent_Maxine_is at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 16 18:32:48 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 110222

>>> Astra and her wacky husband wrote:
> In Goblet of Fire, Voldemort makes reference to the three 
> missing and still-living death-eaters. One of them is obviously 
> Crouch, who's still at Hogwarts; one is PROBABLY Snape, (( the 
> one who's left forever and will supposedly die for it; and then 
> there's a third, one who "failed" Voldemort and will eventually get 
> a rude comeuppance. 


Brenda:

Hiya Astra and her wacky husband!! ;)

I thought "the one too cowardly to return" was Karkaroff and "the one 
who has left me forever" was Fudge. Snape appears to be an active 
Death Eater to me. In fact, I believe he was present at the rebirth 
ceremony (between Lucius and where Lestranges should have been, 'a 
man' stood there). I was immediately sold after reading the 
Northtower Column #15 from Mugglenet.com - check it out, it is a very 
thorough analysis)

There was a poster who shared his/her speculation that whatever Snape 
went to do after GoF (Dumbledore's request and 'good luck' comment) 
was to time-travel, go to the Riddle graveyard and reclaim his 
loyalty. Snape is indeed very intent on whom Harry names as being 
present.

Something else that really bugs me is this: there are only 6 missing 
DEs out of 200+??

I am not too certain just WHO is marked as Death Eater and who
is not
 but I did some counting from the books just to amuse myself.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Death Eaters from Graveyard: 16+
-- Wormtail, Avery, Lucius, Lestranges (2), "the next man", Macnair,
Crabbe, Goyle, Nott, `6 missing lads VM talks about' --

"Some of the Death Easters he passed in silence, but he paused
before others, and spoke to them" (GoF, 564-565. UK)

And of course there are more revealed in OoP (I think) but haven't 
counted them in yet.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
2. The Order of Phoenix: 22+
-- Moody, Dumbledore, Delalus Diggle, Marlene McKinnon, Frank & Alice
Longbottom, Emmeline Vance, Remus Lupin, Benjy Fenwick, Edgar Bones,
Sturgis Podmore, Caradoc Dearborn, Hagrid, Elphias Doge, Gideon &
Fabian Prewett, Aberforth, Dorcas Meadowes, Sirius, James, Lily,
Peter --

But Lupin says later on, when comforting Molly after her encounter
with Boggarts, "Last time we were outnumbered twenty to one by Death
Eaters and they were picking us off one by one
" (OoP, 161. UK)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Following this logic, even if we assume the Order only had 22 members
in it, this leads to the conclusion that there were more than 200
Death Eaters working for Voldemort. If there were more Order members 
and Moody stopped after James appeared on the picture - this only 
means there were that many more DE's strutting around, eating, well, 
deaths. One may argue that it is only Lupin's words - but I am 
inclined to take his words at face value here, I mean why not? He is 
very smart, thus wouldn't have too much of hard time estimating the 
situation.

We just don't know how many silent former Death Eaters there are in 
WW. It is supported by my interpretation of canon, that there are 
bound to be many more Death Eaters than we expect, so brace yourself 
for more true-color-revealing in the next books. I can't bring myself 
to believe there are only "6 missing Death Eaters". ONLY 6 out of 
200+?!


>>> It's Uncle Vernon. 
> 
> This third Deatheater failed 
> Voldemort seriously. Maybe Vernon's job was to keep Harry from 
> ever getting to Hogwarts. Goodness knows he does everything 
> in his power to keep Hagrid from picking him up. <<<

Brenda:

Do you really think keeping Harry away from Hogwarts was that easy? 
Or that Voldemort thought it would be that easy? Then why didn't VM 
leave Vernon to eliminate Harry as soon as possible? Why let him live 
in the first place?


> Zip ahead to book 5. Harry says the word "Voldemort" near the 
> beginning and Vernon calls him "Voldy-thing." He can't say the 
> name. Come on. The guy is playing too innocent. <<<

Brenda:

Well, 'Voldemort' is a pretty rare and unique name, and if you are 
opposed to anything uncommon it will sound funny. Did Harry get it 
right the first time?


> Throughout the books, he purposely makes 
> gobbledygook out of every magic terminology he hears, as if he's 
> trying to slough it off. I think he's trying too hard to play dumb.

Or that he IS actually that dumb. Or you mean like Jessica Simpson? 
*eyeroll*

Brenda





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