Why he is still alive?

[doddiemoemoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 110320

Melody <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> So I was thinking about why Dumbledore has not killed Voldie yet.  
> I mean he *can* do it.  But why not kill him.  I am wondering if 
> it is not that he can't kill him, but that he does not want to yet.  
> I think Dumbledore has not killed Voldie because it would accomplish
> nothing really...yet.  Much like Dumbledore had to have the Minister
> of Magic physically see Voldemort and be forced to admit he exists 
> in OoP, Dumbledore realizes that if the WW does not recognize that
> Voldemort is back as a bigger, badder, and more pissed off Voldie,
> then just killing him accomplishes *nothing*.  

snip the end of the post that got me thinking...

At the very least, DD does not KNOW the full meaning and 
implications of the prophecy..Harry asked the same questions we asked 
first. ("It might not be me...")

And DD assures Harry that "he is the one with the POWER to Vanquish 
the dark lord" ...

But DD gives no assurances as to who the "other" may or may not be 
and Harry is in no emotional condition to ask...Harry may be the 
other..but DD is not sure, hence this is WHY he did not kill 
Voldemort in the MOM!

If you assume DD may have narrowed his prospects as to who 
the "other" may be...welll... perhaps it is Snape, and DD knowing 
Harry's greatest power (love/compassion) thinks that Occlumency may 
be well worth the harm (both of them getting glimpses of not so 
pleasant moments in each other's lives)...or it may be Wormtail (whom 
I do not believe DD thought of for a moment until he owed a life 
debt to Harry)..

I think that DD has made the decisions he had because like Voldemort 
only UNDERSTANDS some of the prophecy---DD is only sure of SOME of 
the prophecy.

Although I may like to think that Wormtail's life-debt will save 
Harry...If the prophecy speaks of three..thus far in the books I'd 
have to say that Snape would be the "other" referred to...

Neither Snape nor Voldemort have ever experienced "love" according 
to JK (or probably any sort of compassion for that matter).

I've never seen it hinted to yet that the power Harry has that 
Voldemort doesn't involves magic as taught in the classrooms at 
Hogwarts. (This is Snape's hang up IMHO).

If the prophecy MAY refer to three (which if we have thought of 
it....DD did as well)...then perhaps this is why DD is thus far 
trusting Snape....also...it may be why asked/requested of Hermione 
to change the time line.

Also given DD's response to Trelawney's "second prophecy" (must go 
back and look more closely), perhaps Peter's "escape" from Harry and 
others in POA/GOF gave DD more leeway in 1.  another instance where 
Snape must depend on DD for any sort of credibility in the WW (note 
how so many of us think Snape was there in the DE circle that 
fateful night); and also 2. DD, to check his hypothesis, had Snape 
teach Harry Occlumency. Probably to remind him that Harry was not 
his father, and Harry was why he is not LV's DADA instructor... Oh 
and another remembered reason #3.  Was this why DD allowed Ron a RAT 
as a pet in the first book (or for that matter allowed Percy a rat 
too)?!??

Could it be that Voldemort is still alive only because DD heard a 
prophecy that made DD hold back to ponder? What if Harry has the 
power already...if it's love/compassion he's had it all along...and 
within the WW he's had it for quite some time now..Will the 
understanding of a "life debt" become more complex and knowledgeable 
as Harry grows older, but it must be more than this according to 
Snape...Also if Snape may be the other:  

  1. He wouldn't want Voldemort to know.

  2.  He may be the "other"  OR there may be a Snape prophecy "out 
there"...He may or may not realize this...my guess is that Snape may 
well have been the one in the Hog's Head the day Trelawney made her 
prophecy..

  If Snape was "there" then perhaps he told VD what he heard..but 
could not tell anything else. (This makes a great deal of sense for 
DD to hire him...Snape doesn't need MOM protection, but the type of 
protection DD can give him.)

Let's face it, Snape is a smart cookie or he wouldn't be potions 
teacher, he was a DE for more than a couple of days or 
weeks... However, smart or not...why does DD trust him?  Why does DD 
assign Snape to teach Harry Occlumency when DD already knows it is 
simply not through Legilimency or Occlumency that Voldemort gets most 
of his information from...

What if Snape was given these lessons for a last ditch effort to 
teach SNAPE something about dignity, compassion, love, friendship 
etc. etc....We know the lessons did nothing for Harry except open 
his mind even more...(and probably little for the reader other than 
sympathizing even more for Harry--he has enough sympathy from us...I 
certainly hope book six informs us more of "other than Harry's or 
other folk's intentions).

doddie
(who once hope to believe that HAND of the OTHER might mean Wormtail)