define love
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 19 19:30:28 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 110648
Valky wrote :
"By this preposition, according to JkR, LV doesn't recall a set of
emotions for people close to him, he doesn't preoccupy with those
emotions he *might* feel. I see it as possibly given by the scene
where he flees Harry's body when Harry recalls the cluster of
emotions for Sirius, that LV does this very same thing with any
cluster of emotion recalled to him, he casts it aside and flees for
fear of his vulnerability. "
Del replies :
Both the Prophecy and DD seem to contradict you.
1. The Prophecy says that Harry has a power that LV doesn't know. If
that power is Love, then LV is not just ignoring his good feelings :
he doesn't have them at all.
2. IIRC, DD says that LV fled Harry's body because it was *agony* to
be in a body so filled of a power contrary to his nature. LV didn't
just cast Harry's love aside, he didn't flee because he was afraid.
According to DD, he fled because he *cannot* withstand Love. It wasn't
a *choice*, it was self-preservation. He fled away from Love like we
would flee away from fire.
Valky wrote :
"I believe that LV has felt positive emotions toward his fellow man.
He has probably been reached out by someone in a way so profound that
he had never felt so much emotion in his life.
I think, you imply that he was OK with these emotions. I defy that. I
think he was not. He banished them. He hated them because they held
themselves better than his anger and bitterness. He defied them
because they offered alternative to his choice to cling to his rage."
Del replies :
It would be logical, except that it doesn't hold with what we do know.
- LV doesn't know Harry's power. The Prophecy doesn't say that Harry
will have a power that LV despises or overlooks. It will be a power
that LV doesn't *know*.
- JKR said that Tom never loved, and that *he could not have become LV
if he had*
- we see that even after decades, LV still cannot recognise love, when
he calls Lily "silly" for trying to protect Harry.
Valky wrote :
" He does fight the deeper Love, I think. He does defy it and reject
it while it is present inside him. He recognised it in Harry. I am
sure that is an indication that he knows it personally."
Del replies :
Again, that would contradict the Prophecy.
I'm very intrigued when you say that he recognised it in Harry. What
makes you say that ? The way I see it, Love burned him and he fled.
Maybe he doesn't understand what happened anymore than he understood
why his AK failed on Harry after it happened.
Del
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