Why now?| LV never loved anyone

[diane lord]

No: HPFGUIDX 110777

Hi there, I am new to the list, and hope this post is okay and applies 
to the rules as far as I understood them.

Re: Why now?
sad1199 here:
<snip> As I posted earlier I just CANNOT believe that JKR would allow 
Harry to die at the end. It just doesn't happen. If the public is 
reading for enjoyment, how many people out there want to see the hero 
DIE at the end of the story? I also believe that even if the books are 
written for a general audience, children still read them and the hero 
just DOES NOT die in children's minds. </snip>

nano says:
My favourite childrens books were the Narnian tales from C. S. Lewis, and
the heroes ended up dying there too. I have two theories on how the series
will end:

1. The power behind the door might be (as already said many a times on the
list) sacrificial love - one thing LV knows nothing about. In order to
activate it HP would have to sacrifice himself. This would also fit in with
the prophecy, LV dying by the hand of HP. This would not however have to be
sad, as he would at long last be able to see his parents (I beleive in life
after death in the WW).

JKR said in Edinburgh that HP would survive UP to the seventh book, she
refused to comment on wether or not he survived after book 7 to reach
adulthood. I also believe that HP & LV may be linked as such that their
fates will be the same - this would mean HP would have to die in order to
destroy the Dark Lord - this could be the reason DD did not try to kill LV
in OoTP. It could also be the key as to why LV did not die - HP survived,
and because of this LV did also (kind of - he didn't cease to exist anyway).

I think this was part of what happened when LV first tried to kill HP - HP
received some of LV's talents and gifts - and LV also received some of HP's,
including the protection, that HP had received from his mother. This
protection was what kept LV from blowing up and linked the two for life.

2. Another favourite theory of mine (allthough very far fetched), is that
the one thing LV knows absolutely nothing about is how to forgive others. I
know this may sound soppy, but what if Harry gets the chance to kill LV and
doesn't - for the simple fact that he [HP] is not evil. What if he instead
CHOOSES to forgive LV, if he feels sorry for him, because he sees, that TR's
fate was so close to his own, and realizes what he himself could have
became, if he had not had such guidance along the way? And going even
further - HP forgiving & not killing LV would mean LV is in a life debt
situation to HP. Wouldn't this be even worse than dying for LV??? I mean
after being the WW worst Villain and killing and using everyone and thing in
his path having to accept the fact that he owes his life to a mere 'boy'.
Would this be enough to make him so mad at himself, that he would seize to
exist (been reading to many fairy tales I know)?
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RE: LV never loved anyone
Tyler's Lion in 110671:
<snip>
If they were available, he didn't take advantage of these
opportunities because HE NEVER LOVED ANYONE.  He didn't have those
attachments, if they were available.  He didn't learn love from his
peers b/c we know HE NEVER LOVED ANYONE.  He didn't learn it in
primary school, either.

I condemn the orphanage b/c it had him as an infant, and infants
can't do anything.  They are completely dependent on others.  I
don't think you can hold a baby responsible for forming a
relationship. Babies WANT to love people, and it's not hard to get
them to love you.</snip>


nano says:
I think, that in an Orphanage the adults are bound to have kept some of the
children waiting - this might make some of the children unhappy or even
angry. Now just think - in Muggle cases the children would cry and scream -
but what if the child can perform magic? What if the adults and other
children start to notice, that the child is some kind of weirdo ??? The
child would certainly be an outsider - and the more detached the child
becomes the more anger heaps up, the worse the pressure gets, the crueler
the pranks on others get. This is a downward spiral, which could well lead
to TR not having been loved by anyone, and because of this not being able to
give love. The older the child gets the more it learns to use its talents to
scare others into doing what the child wants - no wonder TR/LV turned into a
power driven, power hungry monster. Being raised in a muggle orphanage there
was hardly anyone there to stop him, was there? So TR's lesson learnt in the
orphanage can't have been a good one. And by the time he came to Hogwarts it
was to late to show him, as he had already learnt what he could achieve by
surpressing others and using them for his cause.

Just a few thoughts I had to get out of my system...

Greetings from Germany
nano