Secret Keeper Switch (WAsRe: choices / Mama Fridwulfa / Secret Keeper switch

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 22 17:25:47 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 110928

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch" 
<delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
> 
> mhbobbin:
> "Whew! you believe these characters are more treacherous than I 
do! 
> But back to whether or not Sirius went into hiding at this point--
can
> you direct me to the passage that has Sirius telling  us first-hand
> that he had no intention of going into hiding? And was that before 
or
> after he persuaded James to make Pettigrew the Secret Keeper?"
> 
> Del replies :
> Treacherous, no, just secretive. Just consider how many times we've
> seen Harry outright lie in order to protect his own agenda.
> 
> As for the quotes, there are in the Shrieking Shack scene in PoA. I
> can't give you the page numbers because I don't have the book with 
me,
> but I'll paste what Catlady quoted earlier on in this thread :
> 
> "I thought it was the perfect plan... a bluff... Voldemort would be
> sure to come after me, would never dream they'd use a weak, 
talentless
> thing like you.... ["]
> 
> "I persuaded Lily and James to change to Peter at the last moment,
> persuaded them to use him as Secret-Keeper instead of me...."
> 
> Del

mhbobbin writes:
As to which character is telling the truth, the whole truth or is  
lying--that certainly is a major plot device in the series. And 
wouldn't we all like to know about the usual suspects.

 But I still don't see any reason to doubt what McGonagall said in 
the Three Broomsticks (chapter ten)--that James had told DD that 
Sirius was  planning to go into hiding. I do not doubt that was the 
original plan-- that James said it to DD or that DD said it to McG 
or that Sirius meant it. My original post spoke to the context in 
which the Secret Keeper decision was made--about whether the 
Longbottoms might have also gone into hiding. My point was meant to 
convey that the climate was so dangerous that even Sirius had been 
considering going into hiding.

Sirius tells us first-hand that he would be the one LV would surely 
go after to get to the Potters. But it is not clear whether Sirius 
went into hiding or not from these quotes or even from those 
chapters. Yes, Pettigrew was at a hiding place. Personally, I doubt 
that Sirius--during the week after Pettigew was made the SK--was at 
his own place or anywhere he might have easily been found. 

Since Sirius had originally planned to go into hiding--prior to the 
big Switch, it would have been logical, IMO, for him to continue 
with this plan after the Switch. That although he and Pettigew were 
both in hiding, it is Sirius that LV would be looking for in order 
to find the Potters.  If Sirius actually clarified what he was doing 
in that week after the Switch, by stating it outright, I haven't 
found it yet--I have in mind that Sirius said something on this but 
I can't find it.

 But my guess is that is not what is important here. I think what 
was important is how the Secret Keeper decision process was made. 
Who was under suspicion and who was not. Who felt there was a reason 
to be hiding and who didn't matter. But then, I've already posted 
alot about Remus's role in this process so I won't start that up now.

mhbobbin





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