Who stuns Sirius? (was Re: The Veil)

Brenda M. Agent_Maxine_is at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 24 15:23:54 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 111101

>>> Entropy wrote: 
> Perhaps the Order has chosen to use the veil as a way of getting
> Sirius (quite literally) out of sight.  The plan was all in place,
ready to go, but had to be nudged up a bit when the opportunity at the
> MOM presented itself. 
> 
> Bellatrix cast the first curse, which Sirius dodged. But then "the
second jet of light hit him squarely in the chest."  Perhaps it wasn't
> one of the Death Eaters, but an OOP member, simply giving Sirius a
> convenient nudge through the veil.  I chose ESH!Lupin (Ever So
> Helpful!) as the one who shot the stunner, not intended to hurt
> Sirius, but intended to push him through the veil. 
> 
> After Sirius takes his long, dramatic arc through the veil (a bit of
> overacting, perhaps?), he finds Fred and George waiting for him.
> They've bewitched the veil in the same way they did their Headless
Hats, rendering everyone behind it invisible (that's why Harry thought
he heard Ron whispering behind the veil.)  Then Lupin tells Harry that
> Sirius is gone (There's nothing you can do, Harry...It's too late,
> Harry..."). How does Lupin know what the veil is? How in the world
would a werewolf (the most outside of outsiders) have any idea what is
> going on in the Department of Mysteries? He wouldn't, unless he was
> given knowledge of the veil beforehand, by Order members.
> 
But this is my favorite bit: Gilderoy Lockhart is convalescing in the
> "Janus Thickey" ward.  Janus Thickey was a wizard who faked his own
> death by leaving a note on the bedside table for his wife, claiming
that he had been killed by a Lethifold.  A Lethifold, also known as a
Living Shroud (sounds like a veil), is a "dangerous beast resembling a
> half-inch thick black cloak ...It attacks sleeping humans, smothers
> them, then digests them, all in their bed, leaving no trace at
all...Thankfully, this frightening creature is rare, only found in the
> tropics ."
> 
> JKR's tricky with her clues. She loves messing with us! Could it she
> be trying to tell us something? It can't possibly be a coincidence
> that, in the very same book in which we lose Sirius, we are reminded
> of a wizard who has faked his own death via a black shroud (veil!).
> And, didn't Sirius spend some time hanging out in the tropics after
> his escape?


Brenda:

Lol Love your scenario of the "Beyond the Veil" story. I just wanted 
to raise a tiny red flag ever so slightly, before we get our hopes up 
too high:

1. Jo said that she cried after writing this chapter. She told 
husband, "I did it" when crying in her kitchen. He told her before 
not to kill the character off, but she said "I have to". [From an 
interview I read a while ago, can't remember where it was from, sorry]

2. From JKR's website, on "Immeritus" fan site
"I love this site, which I discovered towards the end of writing 
Order of the Phoenix, and which made me feel exceptionally guilty, as 
you can imagine. I am so proud of the fact that a character, whom I 
always liked very much, though he never appeared as much more than a 
brooding presence in the books, has gained a passionate fan-club."

-- notice how she uses past tense in describing Sirius. To me he's a 
goner *cries*

3. Her comment on how death is sudden and FINAL. She would see her 
mother in the Mirror of Erised. She wanted to get it through readers 
that death happens so quickly, unexpectedly and it's final.


Do I still qualify for SAD DENIAL club status??

Brenda, who could so kiss JKR if she made Sirius alive!





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