What did Riddle want from Ginny?

doddiemoemoe doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 27 10:47:19 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 111413

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, caesian <caesian at y...> wrote:
> Well, I feel like Hannah Abbott: I lost my head completely and 
> somehow managed to multiply a ferret into a flock of flamingos 
> (OotP, O.W.L.S.)> 

(snip)

We may all be "Hannah Abbotts"...but we all are at times (even HP and 
gang in OOP...) The creation of the magical flock of flamingos 
originates when we either belive OR refuse to believe in the best OR 
the worst of the story/characters/themes/plotlines etc.. I know this 
because everytime I post here I have little vistions of flocks of 
flamingos flying out of my fingertips and envision that anyone who 
clicks upon what I post will have flocks upon flock flying out of 
their cursor indicator on their monitors. (teehee)


> For example, anyone else notice that poor wizard Barruffio, the 
> one who pedals Brain Elixer (OotP, O.W.L.S.), said 's' instead 
> of 'f' and found  himself on the floor with a buffalo on his chest 
> (PS, Hallowe'en).


Yes, I thought be careful what you wish for...and be even more 
careful of the words that escape your lips.---perhaps this was why 
DD had the triumphant gleam in his eye at the end of OOP..(perhaps 
it was something Voldemort said rather than what he DID to Harry.)

> But what got my interest was this question and answer on JKR's 
> official Website in the FAQ section:
> 
> Question: In 'Chamber of Secrets', what would have happened if 
> Ginny had died and Tom Riddle had escaped the diary?
> Answer: I can't answer that fully until all seven books are 
> finished, but it would have strengthened the present-day Voldemort 
> considerably.
<<snip>>

Doddie here:

  Of course it would be...he consumed Ginny's soul..I'd reckon 
Voldemorts soul is quite shallow compared to Ginny, what with such a 
large family, so many friends(one of Hermione's only female friends 
in the series thus far), and one of a few characters in the books 
thus far that have been able to fight Voldemort(she threw the diary 
into the toilet even after months of posssesion); and she did all 
this at the tender age of 11.(or I suppose anywhere from 10 to 12 
according to JKR's timeline) All the "good" in Ginny's soul would 
probably have been left in the diary..he's interested in the part of 
her soul that would make him more powerful. (which unfortunatly for 
me makes me wonder if harry destroyed the last vestiges of  the 
memory of Tom Riddle pretending to be good, but perfectly capable of 
being evil and gaining power when he sank the seprents fang in to 
the diary...AND/OR did he destroy a part or most of Ginny whose 
partial soul was also in the diary.(does this make sense?)

caesian wrote
> My first thought was, is that really a frequently asked question?  
> I mean, who are these genius kids?  

Doddie again:  naaa not geniuses just kids trying to figure out the 
end of the story. At the end of each book my kids have read they 
always ask me a "what if" question.  My responses usually have them 
go back reread the book because they are so curious (like we are), 
before they go on to the next book.


caesian asked:
> And who cares?  He didn't escape and the diary is destroyed.  
> Interesting that it was included.  It was posted before the whole 
> HBP announcement, or any mention of a long-lost link between CoS 
> and HBP.  (Sneaky.)

Doodie:

Other diaries could be out there, in COS it seemed like it was only 
a year long diary as I remember characters turning it from one month 
to the next...wouldn't we all like to see a diary of the year when 
Harry became a "marked man"?

caesian:
> Second, could this be the plot that was entirely removed from 
> CoS?  I.e., is the explanation of what happened between Ginny and 
> Riddle, and what he stood to gain, removed from CoS to be included
> later?  I would assume it pertains to the nature of the present-day 
> Voldemort.  What was he getting from Ginny?

Doddie:

He was gaining the "magical dna and soul" from a pureblood family--
once Voldemort/Tom Riddle had assured himself of that (in his 
mind)...Killing mud-bloods would not be his first priority would 
it?  What if the Chamber of Secrets title had been changed to HP and 
the Pure-blood Soul? What if book six has a side plot about how 
Voldemort is proving to his followers that he is more than a half-
blood...and the Half-blood prince is the instrument he needs to 
prove it?

caesian wrote:
> "All the while he spoke, Riddle's eyes never left Harry's face.  
> There was an almost hungry look in them."

My guess it that he was simply power hungry...hungry for the power 
that Ginny's death would bring him, and hungry to defeat Harry and 
establish his power/dominance once and for all..

Doddiemoe






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