[HPforGrownups] HarryMort (was many other things)

[manawydan]

No: HPFGUIDX 111488

 Macfotuk wrote:
>I had always thought that LV possessing Harry at the end of OotP and
>then saying to DD 'kill me' was a kind of 'ner ner nee ner ner,
>can't get me' (cos I'm in your favourite person who you'll also
>kill) type thing. However, LV doesn't have a history of playing with
>DD or under-estimating him. It may be that LV is trying to tempt DD
>into some lapse either as a chess-like bluff (make this move and
>you'll beat me - only in fact I know you won't cos you haven't seen
>something that *I* have) or as temptation (Vader and Luke type
>moment a la Star Wars) to expressing his 'dark side' and therefore
>failing. However, it may be instead that LV recognises that he can
>ONLY be killed when he and Harry are reunited as a single entity and
>that DD knows this, but that as the strongest wizard he would surely
>survive and be freed of the suppressive link he presently has with
>HP so that DD's 'death blow' will kill Harry but not himself (LV).
>All this fits with the 'neither can live while the other survives'
>aspect of the prophecy. Further, it begs the question of what
>happened to baby Harry when he and Voldemeort were fused. Part of LV
>was sundered and became the spirit-like weakling that made its
>comeback by dark magic as LV in GoF (to an associated twinkle of
>triumph in DD's eye). HP now is the Voldie/Harry fusion. Where is
>baby HP? The truely good (Lily/James fusion) bit? Is it (like LV
>was) still floating disembodied to be reconstituted at a later date?
>Or is it still there in Harry fighting to be free and independent of
>LV's bit?

I've wondered similar things.

JKR asked us to muse on what Voldemort did to try to ward off death. She's
also said that the clues to the story are there all along. Also that the
latest book will draw on something that Harry discovered in CoS. Also the
question of why Dumbledore didn't kill Voldemort in the Ministry.

I wonder if it's something to do with transference of powers.

Tom Riddle is the heir of Slytherin.

The Founders transferred part of themselves into the Sorting Hat.

Tom transferred part of himself into the diary.

Voldemort transferred his essence to the back of Quirrel's head.

Voldemort transferred his power to speak Parseltongue to Harry.

Was this, perhaps, as a result of his survival spell? There are a number of
questions around what happened when Voldemort tried to kill Harry,
particularly

- knowing only part of the prophecy, Voldemort would (we surmise) used an
AK. But an AK doesn't mark its victim. Harry by contrast ends up with a
scar.

- Voldemort's body is never mentioned as having been found

- the fact that the house fell down (which may just be a result of the
interaction between Voldemort's and Lily's spells)

- Harry's scar acts as a warning about what Voldemort is doing

- curse scars don't do this (I have no reason to doubt Fudge on this)

Two other possible clues are the "gleam" in Dumbledore's eye after hearing
the story from the graveyard, where Voldemort transfers part of Harry (his
blood) to himself, and the "in essence divided" quote

By OoP, Harry's and Voldemort's minds are even more closely linked.

Perhaps Dumbledore didn't try to kill Voldemort because he feared that part
of Voldemort would be transferred to him if he tried. Or perhaps Voldemort
and Harry are so closely linked now that you can't kill one without killing
the other.

Am I on the right lines here?

Cheers

Ffred

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