Mimble & Catchpole or Greyfriars vs. Gryffindors
mclellyn
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Sun Aug 29 00:50:38 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111513
Gadfly McLellyn:
I've been listening to the Harry Potter books in the background while
I work and just letting my subconscious/unconscious pick up clues. I
listen to the books in order. So I listened to ORDER OF THE PHOENIX
with the plant and password of Mimbulus Mimbletonia. Then I listened
to SORCERER'S STONE, and to my amazement there was that word mimble
again.
They are in the hut on the rock and the Dursley's are being
confronted by Hagrid who is aghast that Harry knows nothing about the
wizarding world. P50 of the US paperback:
Hagrid looked like he was about to explode.
"DURSLEY", he boomed.
Uncle Vernon, who had gone very pale, whispered something
that sounded like "Mimblewimble"
So on a lark, I decided to GOOGLE mimble. (I suggest GOOGLEing Mrs.
Mimble and you'll will get there quicker.) What I found was an
author of children's magazine stories named William Leslie Catchpole
who wrote Greyfriars and St. Jim's stories. Does Ottery St.
Catchpole come to anyone's mind? He also wrote under the pseudonyms
of Mrs. Mimble and of Potter and Greene. I was wondering what I had
found. So I got on EBAY and started ordering some MAGNET magazines.
Many of you from Great Britain or Australia are probably familiar
with the MAGNET magazine stories of Billy Bunter at the Greyfriar's
boarding school by Frank Richards and other assorted ghost writers -
one being Catchpole.
I ordered one that had Potter and Greene's "My Own Page" that
described these characters (from MAGNET No 1623 Vol LV page 2):
"Coker's two chums are normally quiet fellows, studious and well-
behaved, with a decided taste for sport. Of the two, George Potter
is more assertive and has a stronger character than Greene; but the
truth is they are both fellows of much the same temperament. They
would prefer to lead a quiet life of study and sport. They never
do. Coker's forceful personality sees to that. Against their will
Potter and Greene are dragged into all manner of shindies, and are
forced to listen by the hour when Coker declaims against beaks and
prefects. Most fellows wouldn't put up with it, but their motto
is "Anything for a quiet life!" Potter's home is in London; Greene's
on the Sussex coast. They are both going to the Varsity when they
leave Greyfriars, but not with Coker!"
Kind of sounds like Harry's life. Decided taste for Quidditch.
Against their will dragged into all manner of shindies. Does POA
p74 "I don't go looking for trouble," said Harry, nettled. "Trouble
usually finds me." come to mind? I believe it is Coker, by the way,
who is famous for his motorbike. Is anyone thinking of Sirius Black?
Mrs. Mimbles "My Own Page" has one paragraph that could be Harry
Potter related it is from MAGNET no 1631 vol LV page 2:
"My shop is quaint and curious, and I will gladly show you round if
you come to Greyfriars. It is part of the old monastery building,
with walls built of flint and about six feet thick. There's the
remains of a secret passage in the cellar, and they say that the
abbey treasure may be buried somewhere down there, though I have
never had the luck to find it. Spiders there are plenty, so you
never catch me down there if I can help it."
Hmmmm secret passageways, treasure and spiders. Chamber of Secrets
or the passage way to Honeydukes, Philosopher/Sorcerer Stones and
Aragog, OH MY. Flint is the Slytherin team captain, but that may be
reaching. Bustrode has been a character in this series as well as
someone named Figgy (Mundungus's nickname for Mrs. Figg.)
The main story of this particular magazine is "The Mystery of Vernon-
Smith". Vernon-Smith seems to be in two places at once this term.
It turns out that he has a cousin who is almost a dead ringer for
Vernon-Smith. Reminds me of the twin archetype I wrote about in my
Humungus Bighead Post of Harry/Voldemort Fusion Theory see post
110941.
In MAN AND HIS SYMBOLS edited by Carl Gustov Jung, they explain
different types of hero journeys in mythology. One is the Twin
archetype which seems to correspond with the conscious (Harry)and
unconscious (Voldemort) uniting journey. "Though the Twins are said
to be the sons of the Sun, they are essentially human and together
constitute a single person. Originally united in the mother's womb,
they were forced apart at birth. Yet they belong together, and it is
necessary - though exceedingly difficult to reunite them." p113 MAN
AND HIS SYMBOLS. Hmmmm, reminds me of what JKR says in interviews on
how she knows what troubles are coming for Harry.
Is anyone out there familiar with the MAGNET's Greyfriar series? Do
you find other similarities between Greyfriar's and Hogwarts? You
will be glad to know that this is probably my last research project
until the next book comes out. No more gadfly swatting for a while.
Gadfly McLellyn
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