Harry... Tsk Tsk (Re: Snape's DE past)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 111655

> Brenda waves back to Alla and decides to go head-to-head with 
Alla, 
> only friendly :o)


Alla:

OK. :)

> Bren butting in, yet again:
> On the second thought, we don't know if Snape was even aware of 
this 
> possibility of sending false visions. His use of Occlumency in 
spying 
> Voldemort doesn't involve making up memories, just "to shut down 
> those feelings and memories that contradict the life, and so can 
> utter falsehoods in his presence without detection". [OoP, 469. UK]


Alla:

Oh, you mean it is possible that Dumbledore DID NOT tell Snape 
everything? Is it possible that Dumbledore does NOT trust Snape as 
much as he claims? :)

I mean, whatever Snape told Harry in the beginning of the lessons 
surely was approved by Dumbledore, right?

So, if Snape is not aware of the fact that Voldemort is sending 
false visions, what does it mean?

I mean it will sure diminish his culpability in my mind, but it will 
raise many other questions.

Brenda:
> Hmm, I wonder if Voldemort *did* attempt Imperio Harry throughout 
> OoP, when Harry was feeling strongly outrageous...


Alla:

Could be.


 

Brenda:
> Now, now, easy on the oldie, we don't want to upset him, it's not 
> good for his health ya know *wink*
> 
> I for one feel sympathy towards DD for having to arrange this. I 
> mean, if Snape couldn't teach Harry, then who could? You mentioned 
in 
> later post Dumbledore should have taught Harry himself, but uhh... 
So 
> you want DD to be attacked and (possibly) murdered by Harry?!?! He 
> felt intense impulse to attack DD the second he made eyecontact 
with 
> DD! Any longer than that, we don't know what would have happened.
> 
> Besides, Umbridge would have gone any length to prevent Harry's 
> private lesson from DD once she found out about it.
> 
> Speaking of the devil, I suppose she was part of reasons Snape was 
> chosen to teach Harry, not other Occlumens. Snape had good 
references 
> from Malfoy and co, Umbridge trusted him to be on her side. And 
the 
> hatred between Harry and Snape was well publicized, no one would 
have 
> suspected Snape to be actually *helping* Harry.



Alla:


Don't get me wrong. Story-wise, plot -wise Snape and Harry spending 
more time together was a perfect idea, but looking within the story, 
I want to smack Dumbledore.

Sure, he probably acted with good intentions. (as always :o)), but 
he is supposed to be SMART. Forget omnicient, just smart. So, why, 
why would he think that Voldemort, had he been given a choice, would 
rather go after him than Harry?

What sense does it make, especially in light that Dumbledore knows 
that Voldie is aware of the Prophecy?

Dumbledore should have guessed that Voldemort does not care about 
killing him, but  about killing Harry.