Conspiracies and re-assessments
templar1112002
templar1112002 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 31 03:57:59 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111685
Snow:
> Dumbledore from the first encounter in the first book appears to
> be aloof to what had just transpired to close friends less than
> 24 hours before, let alone his self-appointed guardianship to
> their child who was placed in the hands of in-laws who had to be
> bribed in some manner to even take him. Also the bit too celebrating
> attitude for what had just happened to the very people he asked to
> be secret keeper for. (This so reminds me of Dumbledore's unusual
> behavior of Pettigrew's escape, an almost identical response to what
> should have been anything but the relaxed, calm attitude that was
> displayed by him.) It seems Dumbledore was celebrating something
> different than everyone else that night after Godric's Hollow. This
> was the very first instance that alerted me to the possibility that
> Dumbledore has a "for the greater good" idealism that is not Harry
> but involves Harry.
>
> This pre-destined Harry is just a part of a pre-destined overall
> plan. Everyone had a choice but Dumbledore was ready and prepared
> for the inevitable choice they made. Just take a look at the wands
> created for not only Tom Riddle/Voldemort but also the eventuality
> of Harry. The wand chooses the wizard, how clever of Dumbledore!
> The wizard does not in this case have a choice does he, but I think
> Dumbledore does. <snip> Dumbledore supplied Olivander with not one
> but two feathers from his own phoenix Fawkes with a preordained
> destiny in mind.
>
> Whether this plan that was devised, most likely since the birth of
> Tom Riddle, will succeed is in the choices made by Harry but very
> closely watched and nurtured in a positive direction by Dumbledore
> and company in order to proceed to the plan that had been created
> long before the prophecy.
Marcela:
You know, I have always thought that even though DD is a very
powerful wizard (sorcerer?), he knew way too much about what was
going on, had a too calm attitude in front of shocking events...
Even after reading some theories about DD using time-turners (sort
of explaining why he knows so much), they still didn't convince me
totally.
But after reading your thoughts quoted above, I remembered DD
mentioning S. Trelawney being the great-great-grand-daughter of a
very famous and gifted Seer (Cassandra)... maybe DD was given a
prophecy by this Cassandra, which helped him get organized against
Voldy, get the Order started, prepare the two wands, 'set the scene'
for Harry to face vapor-mort in PS (I strongly believe that DD
orchestrated that event, even Harry thinks so), etc., etc.
Who knows, maybe DD's prophecy says that Harry will have to 'defy'
the Dark Lord 7 times to finally defeat him (so far it's been 5,
with two more books coming) in the same manner as Harry's prophecy
says that his parents had to have defied Voldy thrice.
DD might not have the complete knowledge of 'how' things are going
to happen, but he somehow (with his own prophecy) knows
the 'outcome' of certain key events. All he has to do is connect
the dots or provide the means for those events to happen, and maybe
that's another reason why he didn't tell Harry of his prophecy
before his 5th year, because he knows what a burden its knowledge is
AND because he *knows* that Harry will defeat Voldy.
Appologies if this has been debated already.
Marcela
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