Trusting characters Re: bullies? twins, padfoot and prongs

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 118994


Siriusly Snapey Susan wrote:

> I wonder if your first [amusing :-)] statement [Ever So Stupid
Sirius] plays into the final question?  That is, maybe Sirius wasn't
*thinking* very logically but just reacting.  He got worried...he
wondered if J/L/H were safe...he rushed off to the place most *likely*
for them to have been, forgetting that if all was well, he wouldn't
have been able to see them even if they were there because of the
Fidelius Charm.
> 
> But as you ask, do we know what breaks the FC?  Does it end as soon 
> as a party being protected is killed?  I don't think we know.  But
if it is broken that way, then it may just be that Sirius "lucked out" 
> in being able to determine what had happened.
> 

Carol responds:
If he'd been told the secret by Peter, and I assume he must have been
told or he wouldn't have known where they were, he's have been able to
see them and visit them in Godric's Hollow just as Harry can see and
enter 12 Grimmauld Place when he's been told *that* secret. It's
*possible* that he wasn't told and only knew to go there because the
Fidelius Charm was broken, but I think he would have said so when he
told the story if that were the case. I do think that DD and Hagrid
knew about GH because the charm had been broken, but I don't think
that's the case with Sirius. After all, James had wanted Sirius to be
the Secret Keeper and it was Sirius's idea to change the SK to Peter.
Probably they were all together when the Fidelius Charm was placed on
Peter, presumably by Lily, so either Sirius knew because he was there,
or James ordered Peter to tell Sirius immediately and Peter was in no
position to argue. (No doubt James told Peter *not* to tell Remus, and
he readily agreed to that!) 

Anyway, my point is that if Sirius knew the secret, and I think he
did, he would have been able to see the Potters themselves, not just
the house. (It's apparently different from the Order HQ Fidelius
Charm, where the house itself is hidden. In this case, LV could
theoretically have peeked through a window, but the Potters would have
been invisible if the secret that they were hidden there had not been
revealed.)

Carol, hoping this makes sense and apologizing for inadequate snipping
on her previous post