Knowing it was Snape (was: What has Snape seen)

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 119090


SSSusan:
>>I don't understand why Snape has to be IN each memory.  I have all 
kinds of memories of people and places and events, and sometimes the 
pictures I have in my mind are of those *other* people and places:  
my grandfather smoking a pipe; my mom & dad playing tennis; my 
brother graduating from med school.  I'm in the audience, as it were, 
and I don't believe that if someone accessed my memories they'd see 
ME; rather, they'd see those other individuals *as I saw them*, but 
I'd be nowhere in sight.<<

Eloise:
> The way that JKR deals with Pensieve "memories" is a bit odd, 
> though. When Harry dips his head into Dumbledore's Pensieve, he 
> witness the  hearings as if he himself were there, not from 
> Dumbledore's own perspective, in fact he *sees* Dumbledore there. 
> If he were truly inside Dumbledore's own recollection then a) he 
> wouldn't be seeing Dubledore himself and b) (more crucially) he 
> would know Dumbledore's thoughts at the time. In the same way, he 
> sees Tom Riddle when he accesses his memories via the Diary. In 
> other words the memories all seem to be narrated in the third 
> person rather than the first person and also are without the 
> emotional resonances and personal insights that our own memories 
> have for us.


SSSusan:
Right, I agree about the pensieve.  But what I was talking about were 
the memories Harry accessed during Occlumency lessons, not those 
memories he experienced when he dipped his head into the pensieve.  
It's the snippets of memories he got directly from Snape that we had 
been talking about and which I was saying shouldn't require the 
person himself to be a participant in.  Does that make sense?

I think Casey may have had the right question, whether *Harry* was in 
each of the memory snippets Snape accessed during Occlumency.  If he 
was, I'll be more inclined to concede.

Siriusly Snapey Susan