Reintegrating to MW / jobs after Hogwarts (was Re: Hogwarts letters)
Barb Fulton
barbfulton at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 3 19:58:08 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119207
Barb says first:
I have only posted to this list once, so my snipping may be
substandard. I apologize in advance for poor snipping, for leaving
some posts out entirely, or for if I accidentally attribute a
comment to the wrong person.
> > Finwitch:
> > I know what they could be: Magicians.
> > And for the rest, well... A chemist? (not so different from
> > Potions or Alchemy, actually Chemistry developed from Alchemy).
> > An astronomer? (They DO teach astronomy at Hogwarts!)
> > 'Pseudo'-meedio, with the help of Divination?
> > And nothing to keep you from writing fantasy stories about WW,
> > is there?
> Dungrollin:
> <snip>
> A Muggle university education may well be out for Hogwarts grads,
> but come off it! Lacking a university education does not mean you
> have no place in society! Honestly...
> kjirstem:
> But, it is one thing to be able to do a job and another thing to
> get paid to do a job. Many of the jobs listed in the posts above
> have some entrance requirements that might be pretty difficult to
> get around coming out of Hogwarts. Probably the best bet would be
> a job with a family member, nepotism can overcome a lot of missing
> background.
snipped the rest of kjirstems' post and some other entire posts
> Del:
> (snip) the Muggleborns might not be cut off from their Muggle
> *family*, but they do end up being cut off from the Muggle *world*.
> Hermione still sees her parents, and we can reasonably assume
> she'll keep on visiting them every now and then when she grows up,
> but that's about it. No Muggle friends, no Muggle activities, no
> Muggle whatever.
(snip)
> But they are no more *a part* of the Muggle World. They've
> emigrated to the WW, and they've left the MW behind. No matter how
> often they go back there, they are now citizens of the WW.
(snip)
Barb now:
I've read all of the posts in this thread (I think), and I still
don't understand why a Muggle-born witch or wizard has to cut
themselves off. We know of witches who live quite convincingly in
the Muggle World (Dean's mom, TMR's mom). Here are my theories...
1) Does England have a GED? (For anyone who isn't familiar, a GED is
a high school equivalency in the US.) I don't know if a GED is
enough to get into college, but it is for tech school at least. My
sister's ex-husband was a high school dropout, but he got his GED
and went on to tech school to become a nursing assistant. Sure,
Hogwarts students missed 7 years of muggle school, but they are only
17 when they leave Hogwarts-they can certainly devote a year (or a
few) to reintegrating themselves. Certainly their parents would be
willing to help them, and there are always tutors. Home-schooled
students don't have diplomas, either, if I'm not mistaken.
2) We don't know if Hogwarts has a plan for students who wish to
return to the Muggle World full-time. We don't learn of new classes
until they come up in Harry's world. Maybe there's a NEWT
alternative in 7th year- "So You Want to be a Muggle" coursework
that would result in a diploma from a not-well-known boarding
school. A 7th year planning to return to the MW would have no reason
to achieve NEWTs, so they could devote their entire year to "muggle
integration." After my sister woke up from a 4 month coma, she had
no recollection of how money worked, how to write a check, buy
groceries, etc. She learned all of that in therapy, so a person can
absolutely be taught how society works and how to function in it. My
sister is now a very productive member of society, holds a job,
volunteers at her children's schools, etc.
3) A student's HoH or DD could refer them to a wizard living in the
MW who could act as a resource, at least. Maybe a wizard acting as a
Muggle Life Coach?
It's not as if nothing in the Hogwarts curriculum can help them in
the MW, after all. Hogwarts students must be good readers, write a
ton of essays, and as Finwitch said, they do study Potions
(chemistry, plus measuring ingredients would require at least some
math) and Astronomy. Isn't Arithmancy a form of math? And the
background in Latin could definitely help in learning other
languages. I like the idea of a former Hogwarts student writing a
novel (or series) about a fantastic world, maybe including a magical
school where kids play sports on broomsticks?
Just my thoughts. Be gentle-I'm still new to posting!
-Barb
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