Harry's Protection (was Re: Questions)

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No: HPFGUIDX 119247


Kneasy:
A different take to mine, but that's not important - working up a
theory that you're happy with and are willing to defend is.
At least we seem to agree that it's about life or some aspect of it,
the struggle to survive and thrive from me, the consequences (welcome
and unwelcome) of immortality from snow. Good. Maybe with a bit of 
luck a crowd will gather and we can start smiting the opposition hip 
and thigh.

Snow:
And that's what it's all about. Appreciating other posters opinions 
whether you totally agree with them or not. It's always good to look 
at a different view of what you initially thought something meant. I 
liked your view of the studies at the Department of Mysteries as 
Dumbledore described them:

Kneasy previously:
"More wonderful and more terrible than Death (the Death Chamber),
than human intelligence (the brain tank), than the forces of nature
(the planetary system)."
Throw in the paradoxes of Time as another make-weight mystery.

Snow:
I was at once motivated to look at this passage yet again and what I 
found was the suggestion that I had offered of there being more than 
one issue in the locked room. The force and the power are not the 
same thing.  

Kneasy:
Dunno about you, but I've never considered that immortality should be
considered as a boon, it's more of a curse IMO. Many folk tales look 
at
it the same way. Not only is there the eventual dreadful dreariness of
one damn day after another, stretching out to eternity, there's also
the snag that although you're immortal, that doesn't guarantee that
you'll stay young.


By and large, I'd go along with your contention that to live forever,
to know everything, would be a real frost. Nothing new - ever.
Terminal ennui and perpetual boredom, something that I get hints of
when looking at the TV schedules.

However, for the time being I'll stick with life and/or life force in
it's more conventional form as my pick. To do otherwise would argue
that Harry (who possesses this power) is immortal himself. Hmm.
A biologist/geneticist can comfortably argue that our DNA *is*
immortal, having being passed down more or less unchanged from
pre-history. (It doesn't matter in this case that you and I are
eventually odds on to turn up our toes, which would knock immortality
on the head, 'cos we're still alive *now* - and the best description 
of
an immortal is someone who isn't dead *yet*.)
But is JKR au fait with biological thinking?
Probably not.

Snow:

That's the whole issue in a nutshell
Harry does not possess the force 
that is contained in the room, he possesses the power that is held 
within that same room. They are two separate issues.

Jo makes it appear to be one in the same by using synonyms like force 
and power also the words contained and held. I see this as the force 
that is contained in the room is protected by the power that is held 
there. We have always assumed that only one thing resides in the 
locked room but since I have noticed the precise wording I'm leaning 
towards this new thought. 

As far as immortality being the force, I would think it to be the 
only thing that was not openly studied at the DOM. If the DOM studies 
time as in time-turner travel, the planets like the centaurs, brains 
and their intelligence
why would they leave out one of the most 
intriguing phenomena; immortality. Of course immortality studies 
would have to be well guarded and protected with a power beyond any 
ordinary protection. That's where Harry's type of power comes into 
play. It is purely self-sacrificing each time Harry attempts to 
protect someone or something. Harry has no regard for his own safety 
because he cares so deeply. Harry has gone as far as to protect 
strangers like Gabriel (Fleur's little sister) and his cousin Dudley, 
who just hit him in the head, from dementors. I think it would be 
safe to say that he would protect Snape if the opportunity arose. I 
don't think Harry can help himself from running to the rescue, he 
doesn't stop to think, he just reacts even to save someone that he 
doesn't know or isn't particularly fond of. That is truely saying 
something for Harry's character. 
Snow