Surprise me, dammit !!!!!

samnanya yswahl at stis.net
Sat Dec 4 19:18:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 119257


For all the talk about Harry will/wont die, Neville will/wont die, 
this ship or that ship HAS!TO!HAPPEN!, Snape ("Professor Snape, 
Harry") is a DE, vampire, cross dresser, or good guy,  Lupin is ESE! , 
a really good guy who cant POSSIBLY be evil, a tame werewolf, a 
mutated yeti, ..... all of this ........

Well, no one besides jkr is sure of anything at this point , and all 
the "predictions" posted here are merely hopes dreams and prejudices 
with little to support that these events MUST occur. Opinions are 
boring and argumentative, and are getting staler by the minute.

About a thousand or so posts were devoted to shrill arguments about 
Good!Snape Bad!Snape to the point that it has turned into a Bush!Kerry 
debate and is just irritating. It should have been obvious by now that 
no one's mind would be ever changed on this matter.  
The H/H, H/R et all shippers will NEVER ever agree since there is rock 
solid canon supporting EACH of them (even Ginny/Squid). And once 
again, once a reader or poster has made up their mind, the issue is 
closed. 
And Dumbledore has been buried so many times by now that as Harry says 
to Drecko Malfooey "funny i'm still walkin' around!".......

Boring... boring.... boring

What is far more interesting (to me at least) is plotting. What 
SUPRISES do you think JKR has in store for us frantic desperate 
readers? What plot twists can bring the series to a memorable and 
satisfying conclusion? What lessons does JKR want to teach her readers 
by the actions of the characters in the potterverse? 

Remember, there has to be at least SOME canon to support a suprise, 
otherwise you have a deux ex machina and everyone tosses the book 
against the wall.... (i.e. End of book 7 --- and Harry woke up and it 
was all a dream told to him by his scar)

And the thing about suprises, if they are obvious they are not 
suprises. Also, and this is important here ..... THEY DONT HAVE TO 
HAPPEN !!! THEY JUST CANT BE DISMISSED OUT OF HAND. 
Dont tell me that Lupin CANT POSSIBLY be evil since he reminds you of 
your ninth grade teacher and HE was a good guy, or whatever built in 
opinion you have based on your life experience .... 

So..... what SUPRISES do YOU think might happen?


Here is my not so short list ...... without canon since the odds are 
that few people will have even gotten this far let alone actually 
resond to it. 
I will of course provide it upon request or interest......
 
DON'T BE SUPRISED IF ...........

1. Draco Malfoy turns out to be the HBP  (DM!HBP Theory)
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I had proposed this several months ago and it was promptly ignored 
with rather feeble arguments why this CANNOT be so. But dont rule it 
out! We know that Narcissa is pure blood, but precious little is known 
about Lucius' background. What a helluva plot twist it would be if 
Lucius is not who he claims to be.
Besides Trevor, no other character comes close to having the suprise 
factor that this one would.
If you disagree, imagine if you were writing HPatHBP and provide a 
more interesting choice!

2. Luna Lovegood will be a Major Major part of Harry's life in HBP, 
replacing Hermione for most of Book 6
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Luna's dad will be killed by Goyle (with or without LV) within three 
chapters of the book because the Quibbler published the interview that 
led to Harry's redemption and the ruination of his plan to stay hidden 
until he got the prophecy. The destruction of the Quibbler as a 
dissenting voice will be a powerful message to the WW that anyone who 
goes up against the Dark Lord will pay a dreadful price.
So, Mr. Lovegood is a goner. Count on it.
Because her dad will die, and because she has nowhere else to go, she 
will end up on Privet Drive and will be the reason that Harry will 
leave there early. Harry offered to help her find her things twice and 
she will go to him for help.  Harry will not refuse. I cant imagine 
that the Dursleys would tolerate a GIRL in the house under any 
circumstances (I would love to see Petunia's reaction to Luna...) and 
will be told never to return to Privet Drive again.
I have much much more on this, but i am not going to waste space on it 
now.


3. The Joke Shop & then Knockturn Alley will be major settings in HBP
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So where does Harry (with or without Luna, if you dont buy into #2) 
go?  To Fred and George. They are the new generation James and Sirius 
so they are where Harry will feel most comfortable. If you read the 
last chapter of OOP you will sense that Harry didnt feel comfortable 
with ANYONE he formally felt comfortable with -- not DD, Hermione or 
Ron, Hagrid. So where else would he go ?  He lied to Molly and Hagrid 
and Ron and Hermione dont REALLY know what he went through. A return 
to Grimauld Place is probably premature (unless you are into elfacide)
The Joke Shop is probably the safest place for Harry in his condition.

As far as Knockturn Alley, it would be an interesting destination to 
Harry on the run. Borgin and Burkes was in the second movie, and I 
just have a hunch that was the scene that JKR didnt want cut because 
it will play a big role in the future. There are also some interesting 
magical objects there that would be useful when on the run (hand of 
glory, the "staring glass eye" -- perhaps like Moody's magical one?).


4.Ginny is unhinged in time and is not who (or what) she seems to be
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Ginny is the one real wild card in the series. She has a real interest 
in time travel and eggs and was as fascinaed by the Time Room as Harry 
was by the veil. There is also a ton of egg symbolism throughout all 
the books.
I would not be at all suprised if she turns out to be a reincarnation 
or a visitor from the past. It is also not an accident that she was 
the one that Riddle occupied. Ginny is the character I most expect to 
be totally different than what our impressions of her are until now.
I dont know how but I know that she will be.

5. Snape will disappear & Hermione will be vital to the art of potions
(though she wont be a teacher yet)
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Besides Hermione, who else has been shown to be a competent potions 
master? Snape has to at least appear to be disloyal to the order for 
his character to be a non caricature... ( To all you Snape lovers, get 
a life! This is my opinion, just dont rule out the possibility that 
Snape is a traitor to the order, at least temporarily)
Hermione has demonstrated that she has an outstanding grasp of potions

  
6. The Marauders Map will be revealed to have powerful dark magic and 
will be the key to the invasion of Hogwarts 
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So far it is all fun and games, but read POA very carefully for some 
of its more scarier properties. and dont forget that Peter Pettigrew 
was one of the authors (as was lupin)


8. Even if DD dies, his memories will be available to Harry in his 
pensieve - so someone ELSE will die or betray the order who is more 
important to the balance of power between the order and the dark lord
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My bet is on Lupin --- I am not convinced that his hands are entirely 
clean in the death of Sirius --- and with his knowledge of the 
Marauders map and dementors, his betrayal will be that much more 
damaging.


9. Why Harry lived & why Voldemort didnt die are the keys to unlocking 
how the series ends  (Hagrid as Yogi Berra)
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 I am saving this for my next post...... There are a lot of strange 
quotes from dumbledore in the prophecy chapter as well as comments by 
Hagrid in the first book that raise a lot of interesting questions 
about Harry and the dark lord .....
Hagrid's quotes are also quite interesting and double edged..... 
Harry's self sacrificing tendencies are critical 


10. The end of Hogwarts will be the biggest suprise the end of the 
series
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Too much hidden canon to quote here.
I just cant imagine JKR wanting to continue this after the series 
concludes. It will be time to move on. She will have twelve children 
and live a long life....
oops, that was Trelawney speaking


So, happy plotting to you all.....
 





   







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