[HPforGrownups] Re: Petunia, New Headquarters, and Ron and Hermione (LONG)

[Juli]

No: HPFGUIDX 119542



--- nysrk321 <nysrk321 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Welcome Hima, nice post!

> *All page ref. are OOP US Hardback*
 
>> 1.Petunia--After Harry fights with the dementors
and brings Dudley home, Vernon starts shouting at
Harry for harming his son.  Then Petunia lets *slip*
that she knows more about the WW than was originally
let on.  Then Harry tells the Dursleys that LV is
back, and Petunia is very, very fearful when she hears
this.  "Back?"  whispered Aunt Petunia. pg 37.  Then
she looks at Harry like she never had before...first
paragraph pg 38. Is it just me, or does it seem like
she is really, truly frightened when she hears that
Voldy is back? 

Juli: Of course she's afraid, LV is the person who
killed her sister, she may not agree with her
lifestyle and everything but Lily was still her sister
and I bet she loved her. We don't really know but LV
may have also killed her parents, so why wouldn't she
be afraid that the person or *thinh* that killed her
entire family was back.

>> Like she may have had a previous encounter with
him?  I've been thinking and maybe Petunia DID have a
previous encounter with LV. Maybe when he was looking
for the Potters and since the (rat) Charm was already
in place, he couldn't find them yet?  What if he went
to the Evans' house, and demanded Petunia, and her
parents to tell him where they were?  But maybe
Dumbledore didn't tell the Evans' where they were
going to be, because of this? And since Voldy may not
have believed them, he killed Petunia's parents in 
front of her.  Then turned on Petunia, and said the
same thing, only she somehow *got out* of being AKed
by Voldemort.  

Juli: Your theory just has a slight problem: The only
person to ever survive an AK is Harry (Crouch!Moody in
GoF Ch 14, The Unforgivable Curses: "Not nice," he
said calmly. "Not pleasant. And there's no
countercurse. There's no
blocking it. Only one known person has ever survived
it, and he's sitting right in
front of me." refering to Harry), so if Petunia was
sometime AK'd by LV, she wouldn't be here. 

>>I remember him saying something like "She needn't
have died" in the graveyard about Lily.  But what if
Petunia blames their parents' death on Lily and her
"freakishness", and thereby cementing her hatred of
the WW? 

Juli: The way I read it LV was just after Harry when
he went to Godric's Hollow, he didn't really want to
kill Lily and James, they just got in his way. PoA Ch
9, Grim Defeat: Harry's at the Quiditch match when
dementors come near him, he hears his mom and LV: "Not
Harry, not Harry, please not Harry!"
"Stand aside, you silly girl... stand aside, now...."
"Not Harry, please no, take me, kill me instead --"

> (And we STILL don't know about the Evans' parents,
> dead, alive.?  
> We want to KNOW!!)

Juli: They are dead, Petunia is Harr's only living
relative: PS/SS Ch 1 The Boy Who Lived: "I've come to
bring Harry to his aunt and uncle. They're the only
family he has left now." This is when DD explains MM
why they're there.

> 2.Ron and Hermione -- The day of Harry's Hearing
> they get their 
> booklists, and Ron and Hermione are named prefects. 
> Harry is 
> jealous of Ron for about 2 seconds.

Juli: Actually he stopped feeling jealous when Sirius
told him neither him or James were ever Prefects,

<SNIP>

> 3. New Headquarters -- When Harry first gets to
> Sirius' house, 
> they're having a meeting. Harry goes upstairs and
> *reunites* with 
> Ron, and Hermione.  (By shouting at them)  After
> the meeting is 
> over they all go into the kitchen for dinner, but
> they aren't fully 
> done cleaning up after their meeting, are they?  Pg.
> 80 Tonks 
> knocks something over on the table and Mrs.Weasley
> cleans it up, 
> and "in the flash of lightHarry caught a glimpse
> of what looked 
> like a building plan".   Could this be a plan for a
> new headquarters 
> (esp. now since Grimmauld Place seems to be "up in
> the air"?  Or 
> could it be the plans for something else that DD
> maybe planning?  

Juli: I always believed this was a plan of the MoM, we
know the Order Members are always looking for any DEs
that may enter the DoM.

<SNIP>

Juli

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