Lupin, Snape and Potions (was Re: Is Snape really THAT good in Potions?(
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Dec 9 15:53:34 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119573
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat"
<willsonkmom at m...> wrote:
> Neri:
> snip
> > It is reasonable to suppose that Lupin completed a Potions
NEWT with a good grade: he is intelligent, was probably a good
student (a prefect and a "good boy" who started studying for the
Transfiguration OWL minutes after getting out of the DADA
exam) and he had a strong study group. He also has the
disposition for Potions: quiet, patient, subtle and motivated. In
fact, in the Pensive scene 15 yrs old Remus seems to be more
patient and subtle than 15 yrs old Severus. For all we know, he
could have got a better grade in his Potions NEWT than Snape
did.
>
> Potioncat:
> I don't think it is reasonable to think Lupin took Potions after
OWL level. I don't doubt that if he did take it, he did well at it.
But I don't think we have any idea what he took. No, I take that
back. I'll bet he took DADA. I think he took Charms and
Transfigurations. I'm basing that on what I think we've see him
doing at Hogwarts and at GP.
>
> I would bet that neither James nor Sirius took Potions and that
in itself may have kept Remus out of it. Or he may have avoided
Potions to avoid Severus. <
Pippin:
Or Severus took NEWT potions to avoid Remus, Sirius and
James. I think I have found additional reason to think Lupin
would have a problem with potions. Snape coments on his lack
of organization. If true, that would make Lupin a poor potion
maker. There's certainly independent evidence of
disorganized!Lupin in canon--the whole fiasco at the end of PoA.
Even if you believe that Lupin didn't *actually* forget to take his
potion and keep track of when he was going to transform, his
lack of organization is what makes it credible that he might have
done so.
There's also the problem that polyjuice, for example, requires
ingredients picked at the full moon and veritaserum requires
tending for a full moon cycle. Lupin's illness would make him
unsuited for a job that required him to make such potions, so
why take the course?
I also have the feeling that the potions curriculum is becoming
obsolete and that is one of the reasons Snape keeps angling for
the DADA job. In pre-industrial times, many households made
their own preparations: soaps, dyes, pickles, medicines and of
course beverages. Nowadays they're all available commercially
and only hobbyists and professionals need learn the details of
how they're made.
Skele-Gro, Mrs.Skours, and Sleek-easy all seem to be brand
names, so a similar development could be occuring in the WW.
It could be that the Marauders saw no reason to bother with the
subject, unless they were planning to be Aurors or Healers, and
there's no canon for that. If James had been an Auror, surely
someone would have mentioned it to Harry by now.
Pippin
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