Wizards, Muggles, and Genetics (long and obsessive)
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 12 01:10:01 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 119754
Dungrollin wrote:
> So if the magic gene is dominant, then for Lily to have been a
> witch, at least one of her parents must have had at least one
> copy of the magic gene. That would make one of her parents
> magic/muggle or magic/magic â" ie, a witch or a wizard.
Geddit?)
>
>
Amber replied:
> Not necessarily. You're forgetting how genetic variation
> happens. Genes can mutate into original forms (there was no one
> afflicted with hemophilia in the royal families of Europe before
> Queen Victoria's children) <snip>
Muggleborns are not mutants, as a quick calculation will show:
The human genome is 3 billion base pairs long. (Base pairs are the
things that are linked together to make DNA, and are what change in
a mutation). Lets be wildly optimistic and say that it takes only
one base pair change (mutation) to turn a muggle into a wizard, okay?
Birth rate in 1980 was 13.5 per 1,000 population. The population in
the UK was around 55 million, and there is on average 1 base pair
mutation per generation i.e. there is one base pair difference
between you and your parents *which is due to mutation*.
Right. Some quick maths...
(55,000,000 / 1,000) x 13.5 = 742,500 children born in the UK in
1980, each of which had a 1 in 3 billion chance of having the right
mutation to make them a wizard.
Therefore the number of wizards born to muggle parents in 1980
should have been around
742,000 / 3,000,000,000 = 0.00025.
Therefore, I can confidently say, that if muggleborns are the result
of mutations, you would get (in the UK if the population stayed
static) on average, one muggleborn wizard every 4,000 years.
Convinced?*
Amber continued:
... and some genes can negate the indications of other genes (some
children are born with the predisposition to cystic fibrosis and do
not develop the disease due to other gene combinations--evolution
at work). All this only reinforces how rare muggle-born (25% or
less of the wizarding population) and squibs are.
Dungrollin again:
That's more possible... Postulate one gene for muggleness/wizardry
and another gene for a suppressor/expressor. The active suppressor
allele would have to be recessive (to allow JKRs statement
that 'magic is dominant') - but if you've got a large enough Muggle
population (which we have) with, say, a very low frequency of the
dominant allele which allows the magic gene to be expressed then...
Well, you could have loads of wizarding genes in the Muggle
population, but it's only when they happen to be born into a body
carrying the dominant expressor gene that the child ends up being
magical.
Oh god. Gene frequencies means we're straying into the realms of
population genetics, which frankly makes me want to go to the pub
and pretend I didn't suggest it.
But since JKR has brought genetics into it all, shouldn't we all be
wizards by now? Magical genes seem to me to possess huge selective
advantages over Muggle genes, they should have out-bred us yonks ago.
Dungrollin
Thanking Charme very much for bringing up a subject that I can
obsess over, but gracefully bowing out now...
* Have I got that right? Or is it one mutation per generation in
introns (coding DNA)? - If I'm wrong then the chance is not 1 in 3
billion, but 1 in 72 million which means...
742,000 / 72,000,000 = 0.01 (1 muggleborn every 100 years - still
too low, anyway).
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