Lucius betrayed? (WAS Re: JKR's cryptic answer: Who sent the Lestranges...)

chrusotoxos heos at virgilio.it
Mon Dec 13 11:59:35 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 119804



> Jen: 
> > I was thinking of Lucius too, but then...Snape popped into my 
> > head. Snape seems the best fit as the person who overheard the 
> > prophecy. If so, then he would know about the Longbottoms and 
> > could send Bellatrix and Co. to extract info without telling them 
> > why.  BUT, given the timeline and Dumbledore's trust of Snape, 
> > it's unlikely Snape could be behind both the Potters' and 
> > Longbottoms' attacks and DD would still have faith in him. The 
> > more I think about it, Lucius does seem the logical choice from 
> > all the DE's we've met so far. (But that saps my favorite theory 
> > that Lucius isn't really loyal to Voldemort. Maybe it can be 
> > amended to say Lucius was loyal in the first war, but liked the 
> > taste of power too much to take orders again <g>).
> 
> 
> SSSusan:
 
> Your thoughts about Lucius, especially as they pertain to his being  
> loyal or not-loyal to Voldy, are interesting to consider.


What a wonderful thought...Lucius, the big aristocrat, the blond vampire, the 
overly bad guy could be treacherous to his master?

Well, I think that it's a given that, if Lucius is betraying, is not to go to the 
good side. He's defitnely against Dumbledore.

But there are many ways to be against Dumbledore. So here is a list of FACTS about Malfoy 
sr.:

1) He never tried to find Voldemort. Why? The ritual to restore his body didn't seem all this 
complex to me, if even Pettigrew could manage it Lucius surely could. 

2) Lucius seems to be pretty powerful among the DE. He's one of the few to whom 
Voldemort talks at the end of GoF, and we know by Karkaroff that his followers only knew 
about the real powerful allies he had. Also, he is not punished...his loyalty must be more 
precious then petty revenge.

3) I still believe that Snape was surprise to know that Lucius was at the graveyard. He 
makes a sudden movement when Harry mentions his name, and I'm sure that was because 
a) he hadn't been able to go (blocked at Hogwarts), b) was really a Lucius' friend all these 
years and c) they had agreed not to support LV but to gain power alone (Snape only agreed 
to this plan in order to spy for Dumbledore, of course, but he really likes Lucius - after all, 
he was possibly his mentor, seeing how very much alike they act...Snape was trained 
well...)

4) Malfoy wouldn't gain anything by having LV back. He already has all he wants. LV means 
troubles.

5) His actions are directed against Muggle-born, as he's racist, but are not pro-Voldemort 
(cf. setting loose the Basilisk)

6) And this puzzles me: Lucius, weel connected at the Ministry and very bright, must know 
that a prophecy would explode if it falls down, allowing everyone to hear what's inside it 
(and, two prochecies actually break while he's in the Department of Misteries). So the 
logical thing would be to hurt Potter in some way, the prophecy slips and the DE can hear 
what it says. Then they kill everbody and bring HP back to be killed by Voldemort. Lucius 
appears to be in charge: why doesn't he do that?

My guess is that he's playing a game even more dangerous than Snape's game, and will 
surely be killed in the end, as Voldemort is no Dumbledore: no second chances for him...

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