Adults "failing" Harry (was: Themes in OotP)

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 119926


Dungrollin:
> There's something about DD that was causing either the scar 
> connection or the bit of Voldy that's in Harry's head to act
> up.  And who's to say that reading a letter from DD might not
> have triggered something similar?  I know it's an odd idea, but 
> since we don't know how the scar connection works from Voldy's 
> point of view, it is a possibility.  

SSSusan:
No, no, I don't think it's odd.  It would be something which would at 
least make *sense* of some of this if we find it to be true later.


Dungrollin:
> Ideally, DD should have told Harry about the prophecy at the end of 
> GoF, right after the graveyard scene, but he put it off.  Harry had 
> been through too much already, later, later...  

SSSusan:
Agreed.


Dungrollin:
> But, to be honest, would a letter from DD in January, saying
> `Harry, it's really really really important that you learn
> Occlumency' have made any difference?  He'd already been told
> that it was important, and that DD thought it was important.  What 
> *would* have made a difference would be Harry having known that 
> Voldy wanted to trick him into going to the DoM; and to know that, 
> he'd have had to have known about the prophecy.  And if his 
> curiosity wasn't to get the better of him again, he'd have had to 
> know the *contents* of the prophecy, not just of its existence, or 
> he'd have gone running off to the DoM to find out what it was about.
> 
> And, quite apart from it having to be secret and everything, it's 
> really not the sort of thing you could put in a letter, is it?
> Hmmm.  I'm not sure it's convincing.  What do you think?


SSSusan:
Frankly, I DO think hearing it *directly* from DD rather than through 
someone else might well have made a difference to Harry, yes.  And 
that's partly because I'm proposing that the communication from DD 
would have had to have included NOT JUST that it's "really really 
really important," but, yes, also something specific about how Voldy 
might have the capability of feeding him not just actual images but 
*false* ones to trick him.  If I were Harry, I'd think that kind of 
specific [but-not-too-specific for The Order!] information would have 
scared me into believing DD.  But maybe I'm wrong.  You've got a 
point about Harry's curiosity after all....

Ack, 'tis all moot, isn't it?  Being all in the "what if" category 
anyway.

But I'm still annoyed with DD! ;-)

Siriusly Snapey Susan