Adults "failing" Harry (was: Themes in OotP)

nkafkafi nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 15 21:26:37 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 119943


Dungrollin:
> Just remembered something in 'The Centaur and the Sneak' just after
> DD knocks out Fudge and the other chaps from the ministry, and
> before he disappears from his office with Fawkes :
>
> "Listen to me, Harry," He said urgently. "You must study
> Occlumency as hard as you can, do you understand me? Do everything
> Professor Snape tells you and practise it particularly every night
> before sleeping so that you can close your mind to bad dreams - you
> will understand why soon enough, but you must promise me -"
>
> The man called Dawlish was stirring. Dumbeldore seized harry's
> wrist.
> "Remember - close your mind -"
>
> Didn't make much difference to Harry's attitude, did it?


SSSusan:
OHMYGOD!! You're right, Dung; I'd forgotten. Bummer. :-( So there
goes my theory out the window -- with the exception of the part where
I think DD should have told Harry that Voldy could potentially
actually *feed him lies and false images*. So I guess I can still
blame him for that bit and hang onto my "it would've made a
difference" notion by the merest wisp of a thread?

Otherwise, I guess I would have to fault... Harry?? <snip>

Neri:
I don't think you should admit defeat so fast, SSSusan :-)

What Dungrollin forgot to add is that in response to this urgent 
request, DD gets from Harry one of those snake urges, and DD tells us 
later that he did notice it. So DD had a very clear indication that 
he is losing the battle on Harry's mind, and still he hasn't done 
anything about it, and left Harry alone. Regardless of Harry's fault, 
I think this passage is actually the strongest indication of DD's 
failings. This is not about being nice to Harry; this is about 
winning or losing the damn war. And I might add that DD knew that, 
while Harry had no reason to think that this is about something more 
than his own security. 

Neri   








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