Umbridge and Harry's Temptations (was Re: False Alarm?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 119999


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> 
> > Alla responded previously:
> 
> snip.
> 
> I mean sure during those two months Harry could have continue
> clearing his mind, which he did not do, but if Dungrolin suggests
> that he was supposed to study Occlumency on his own, I disagree.
> Harry does not know how to study this subject. We are not even sure
> that Snape was teaching it properly, how was Harry supposed to learn
> it on its own?
>  
> Clear your mind does not equal learning Occlumency, IMO. It is just
> meditation exercises, which help you studying.
> <snip>
>  
>  
> >Dungrolin:
> Harry never did practise clearing his mind enough to know how much 
> it would have helped him block Snape during the lessons.  But DD 
> thought it would stop the dreams, and that was what was important, 
> wasn't it?  Voldy didn't stand in front of him with a wand 
> shouting `Legilimens!' he got at Harry through his dreams.  
> Practising clearing his mind before he slept was what would 
> stop the dreams; Snape seeing how easy it was to penetrate
> Harry's mind with the Legilimens spell was his way of checking up 
> on how Harry was progressing.  And since he wasn't practising,
> it's no surprise that he wasn't progressing.
>  
> Harry wasn't supposed to *study* Occlumency on his own, he was 
>  supposed to *practise* it.  Which he didn't do, no matter who
> told him how important it was.
> 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I completely agree that Harry never practiced enough, but what I am 
> getting it is - I am not sure that practising "clearing" your mind 
> equals "practising Occlumency" Am I being confusing? And I am not 
> sure that Snape's only function was to check up on how Harry was 
> progressing. If lessons were THAT simple, surely Dumbledore could 
> have find  someone else to check on Hary's progressing , who maybe 
> knows Occlumency, but not as good at it as Snape is.
> 
> I think I am going back again to speculation that something VITAL 
> was missing in Snape's instructions.
> 
> So, what was my original point of this discussion? Oh, yes 
> Dumbledore's warning was too late and not sufficient. IMO, he could 
> have written a letter to Harry explaining about possibility of 
false 
> visions, but of course then we would not have a story. Just my 
> opinion.