I don't like him much

[dumbledore11214]

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> Demetra:
I actually generally like Harry as a character, but he often grated 
on my nerves in OotP.   Yes, I agree with everyone who has argued 
that Harry was simply acting like a typical teenage boy.  I simply 
had *my* typical response to teenage boys – I wanted to smack him 
upside the head. 


Alla:

LOL! Yes, sometimes teenage boys do invoke such reaction, 
absolutely. :o) 


Demetra:
What I don't understand about the `adults failed Harry because they 
didn't give him enough information' argument is this – If Harry
is a 
typical teenaged boy, why would anyone think that giving him 
information would help?  My experience with teenagers is that facts 
are conveniently ignored when said facts come in direct conflict 
with the teenager's desires.  

snip.

Yep, Harry behaved like a typical teenager.  IMHO, additional 
information wouldn't have made a hill of beans of difference.  Harry 
made a conscious decision to ignore Hermione, Dumbledore, Sirius and 
Lupin who all told him that it was important to work hard on 
Occlumency.  He made a choice, and he chose poorly.



Alla:

Well, that part I disagree with. I tend to think that additional 
information would have made A LOT of difference, I AM of opinion 
that Harry did act as  typical teenage boy, but he is not stupid (in 
my opinion, at least) and he is not evil (also in my opinion)

Dumbledore did NOT give him a possibility to make informed choice. 
He lacked necessary information to choose wisely, IMO.

Are you saying that if Harry would have been given an information 
that Voldie may plant false visions in his head, he would have not 
practised "clearing his mind"?

I mean, I tend to think that it would have even motivated him to 
trust Snape. Of course, maybe I have too high opinion of Harry's 
intelligence.


I mean, sure it is quite possible that information would not have 
helped, since Harry would not been able to overcome his mistrust of 
Snape anyway, but we will never know, will we?