Parenting Harry (was: Re: I don't like him much)

[eloise_herisson]

No: HPFGUIDX 120098


> >Eloise wrote:
> 
> Snip
> 
> > Lupin is present at school with Harry for only one year out of 
five 
> > and at the end of it what does he do? *He gives him back the 
map*, 
> > the map which he was "astounded" Harry hadn't handed in. Just
> > because he was no longer a teacher he felt no obligation to keep 
it 
> > from him,but by that act tacitly colluded with Harry's rule-
> breaking 
> > and possibly putting himself into danger again in the future. 
> > McGonagall could fulfil the role, but for some reason seems less 
> > involved, strange since she's Harry's head of house.
> 
> imamommy:
> 
> Well, he was "astounded" because Harry knows Sirius Black is 
> (supposedly) hunting him.  The next sentence references the attack 
on 
> Gryffindor tower after Neville lost the passwords.  

Eloise:

Correct. Although I'm not sure that Lupin knows that Harry believes 
that Sirius had escaped in order to kill him at that point. 

imamommy: 
> After the danger has passed, Lupin doesn't feel badly because there 
> are no more mass murderers looking for Harry.  

Eloise:
An attempt was made on Harry's life when he was a baby. An attempt 
was made on Harry's life when he was in his first year. An attempt 
was made on his life in his second year. Lupin has no grounds for 
thinking that Harry's life won't be in danger in future and more to 
the point, he is as I say above, colluding with Harry's rule breaking 
and quite possibly his looking for trouble.

imamommy: 
I think he is also 
> overcome by nostalgia, and wants Harry to have this map that James 
> and his friends made, and used together.  

Eloise:
There is no question in my mind that that is the case.

However, the argument I was making was that Snape is the only one who 
*consistentely* disciplines Harry and ties to curb his rule breaking 
tendencies and that even Lupin, who cares deeply for Harry and does 
attempt to exercise some control over him, ultimately fails in this 
role. How does Lupin's giving the Map back to Harry out of nostalgia 
contradict that? 

~Eloise