You're in the Army, now. wasFalse Alarm? Was:Re: Adults "failing" Harry (in tP)

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> > Pippin:
> > <snip> 
> > As we know, the prophecy doesn't contain instructions for 
destroying Harry, so if Dumbledore was letting Snape and Molly 
think that it did, he would have very good reasons for not wanting 
this information shared with Harry. It would also mean that 
Snape need not know that Harry is the only one who can 
 vanquish Voldemort. He may not know the true contents of any 
of the prophecy, even the first part.<
> 
> Neri:
> Oh dear, here is where you lose me again, Pippin. I just can't 
 contain all these different versions in my poor brain all at once. 
Now let me try again. DD told the Order a lie that the prophecy 
contains instructions how to destroy Harry, so they won't tell 
Harry  this lie, but Lupin and Sirius did know the truth and that's 
why they  were exchanging glances, yet they didn't tell Harry the 
truth because they weren't supposed to know the truth, they were 
supposed to know  the lie, but not tell it to Harry. Yet Sirius did 
want to tell Harry  the truth but Molly objected, only she was 
objecting to telling Harry  the lie, which she thought was the truth. 
Hey, I think I got it! Why  didn't Sirius agree with Molly not to
tell Harry the lie that she  thought was the truth, and then went 
and told Harry the real truth?<

Pippin:
He might have, but as you'll notice, it's Lupin who tells Sirius 
they've  said enough. He says there are dangers they've no idea 
of, any of them. Wonder what that means?

Neri: 
> But wait a minute – if Lupin is ESE he would have told Voldy 
the  truth, so Voldy would have known the real prophecy and 
there was no  need to go to the DoM...

Pippin:
Voldemort does act as if he knows only he can kill Harry, doesn't 
he?Let's suppose ESE!Lupin reports the true prophecy, having 
heard it from Sirius.Voldemort is still going to want to hear the 
prophecy for himself. What if Sirius is misinformed? What if 
Lupin is playing games of his own? 

ESE!Lupin may also report that only Voldemort or Harry can take 
the prophecy from the shelf. Voldemort is also still going to want 
independent confirmation that only he or Harry can take it, for the 
same reasons.

Voldemort also has to  behave as if he isn't getting secret 
information from ESE!Lupin, because to do otherwise would be 
to compromise his spy. So Voldemort organizes a couple of 
phony attempts to seize the prophecy, then rescues Rookwood 
from Azkaban and stages his little set piece about how woefully 
misinformed he's been.

Pippin
whose original EverSoEvil!Lupin post is 39362